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* Screen or tmux?Gamgee
+* Screen or tmux?Arelor
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+* Screen or tmux?acn
|`* Re: Screen or tmux?Gamgee
| `* Re: Screen or tmux?Digital Man
|  +- Re: Screen or tmux?Gamgee
|  `* Re: Screen or tmux?deon
|   `* Re: Screen or tmux?Digital Man
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+* Screen or tmux?Jimmy Mac
|+- Re: Screen or tmux?Gamgee
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|+* Re: Screen or tmux?Gamgee
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      `* Re: Screen or tmux?Gamgee
       `* Re: Screen or tmux?DaiTengu
        +* Re: Screen or tmux?Gamgee
        |`- Re: Screen or tmux?DaiTengu
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         +- Re: Screen or tmux?Brian Rogers
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Screen or tmux?

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From: gamgee@VERT/PALANT (Gamgee)
To: All
Subject: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Gamgee - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 17:52 UTC

For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

Thanks.

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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Gamgee
Subject: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Arelor - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:29 UTC

Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Gamgee to All on Thu Apr 29 2021 07:52 pm

> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

I got started with screen, but nowadays I use tmux more often. The main reason
is that it is in OpenBSD's base install, so I just got used to it. It is also
licensed under a BSD-like license, if you care about such things. In addition,
its keyboard commands are a bit easier for my fingers.

In the end of the day it is just another Vim vs Emacs war.

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Screen or tmux?

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From: acn@VERT/IMZADI (acn)
To: Gamgee
Subject: Screen or tmux?
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 by: acn - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:49 UTC

Hi Gamgee,

> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

I'm using screen, just because that's the command I learned first and it works
just fine for the purposes I need it, which are mostly "keep a session open
even if I get disconnected from my SSH session" and "use a single SSH session
but run multiple shell commands in parallel".
And I got used to the basic Ctrl-A key commands :)

Regards,
Anna

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To: Gamgee
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Abaffa - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 04:08 UTC

I use tmux... I has a status bar that's useful to check the session id
and it's easier.

On 29/04/2021 21:52, Gamgee wrote:
> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ... All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
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Re: Screen or tmux?

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From: gamgee@VERT/PALANT (Gamgee)
To: Arelor
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Gamgee - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 05:43 UTC

-=> Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

Ar> I got started with screen, but nowadays I use tmux more often.
Ar> The main reason is that it is in OpenBSD's base install, so I
Ar> just got used to it. It is also licensed under a BSD-like
Ar> license, if you care about such things. In addition, its keyboard
Ar> commands are a bit easier for my fingers.

Okay. The commands are all customizable if desired... I've always used
screen too, but have been playing with tmux some lately. It does have
some VERY nice features, and is very configurable. I especially like
being able to have more than one "window" available (proper term might
be "session", I'm not sure). Also splitting it into multi panes is very
cool. I will probably eventually switch over to using it exclusively.

Ar> In the end of the day it is just another Vim vs Emacs war.

Hehe, I suppose that is probably true. Nano for the win. ;-)

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From: gamgee@VERT/PALANT (Gamgee)
To: acn
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Gamgee - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 05:46 UTC

-=> acn wrote to Gamgee <=-

> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

ac> I'm using screen, just because that's the command I learned first
ac> and it works just fine for the purposes I need it, which are
ac> mostly "keep a session open even if I get disconnected from my
ac> SSH session" and "use a single SSH session but run multiple shell
ac> commands in parallel".

Yeah, same here. Take a look at tmux if you get bored, it has some
pretty cool features that go a little beyond screen. I still mostly use
screen too, but will likely move to tmux eventually.

ac> And I got used to the basic Ctrl-A key commands :)

Yep. Tmux uses Ctrl-B as it's prefix by default, which is extremely
awkward, but thankfully it's easily configured to Ctrl-A. ;-)

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To: Abaffa
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Gamgee - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 11:28 UTC

-=> Abaffa wrote to Gamgee <=-

Ab> I use tmux... I has a status bar that's useful to check the
Ab> session id and it's easier.

Yep, I like that too. Thanks for the reply.

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From: digital.man@VERT (Digital Man)
To: Gamgee
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Digital Man - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:57 UTC

Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Gamgee to acn on Fri Apr 30 2021 07:46 am

> Yep. Tmux uses Ctrl-B as it's prefix by default, which is extremely
> awkward, but thankfully it's easily configured to Ctrl-A. ;-)

Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's the first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't all that often).
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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Fri Apr 30 2021 07:43 am

Ga> Okay. The commands are all customizable if desired... I've always used
Ga> screen too, but have been playing with tmux some lately. It does have
Ga> some VERY nice features, and is very configurable. I especially like
Ga> being able to have more than one "window" available (proper term might
Ga> be "session", I'm not sure). Also splitting it into multi panes is very
Ga> cool. I will probably eventually switch over to using it exclusively.

I'm with you on this.

I've been using screen for a loooong time, but discovered tmuxinator for the MAC, with some themes, which provides a nice sexy screen.

So I'm in the process of switching over to tmux and having to learn the tmux way of things - all because of a sexy screen!

I'm probably using 2% of it right now, and its on my list to understand it more, but thats enough for me to be dangerous now.

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To: Gamgee
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Nelgin - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 23:39 UTC

Gamgee wrote:
> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?
>

I use screen because I'm used to it. Does everything I need.

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To: Digital Man
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: Gamgee - Sat, 1 May 2021 05:16 UTC

-=> Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

> Yep. Tmux uses Ctrl-B as it's prefix by default, which is extremely
> awkward, but thankfully it's easily configured to Ctrl-A. ;-)

DM> Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's
DM> the first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't
DM> all that often).

Hard to believe that *anyone* would actually prefer Ctrl-B... :-)

You probably already know this, but you can "permanently" define your
desired prefix key in a config file (Linux "dotfile") called .tmux.conf

My very simple config looks like this:

# remap prefix from 'C-b' to 'C-a'
unbind C-b
set-option -g prefix C-a
bind-key C-a send-prefix

# split panes using | and -
bind | split-window -h
bind - split-window -v
unbind '"'
unbind %

# switch panes using Alt-arrow without prefix
bind -n M-Left select-pane -L
bind -n M-Right select-pane -R
bind -n M-Up select-pane -U
bind -n M-Down select-pane -D

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-=> deon wrote to Gamgee <=-

Ga> Okay. The commands are all customizable if desired... I've always used
Ga> screen too, but have been playing with tmux some lately. It does have
Ga> some VERY nice features, and is very configurable. I especially like
Ga> being able to have more than one "window" available (proper term might
Ga> be "session", I'm not sure). Also splitting it into multi panes is very
Ga> cool. I will probably eventually switch over to using it exclusively.

de> I'm with you on this.

de> I've been using screen for a loooong time, but discovered
de> tmuxinator for the MAC, with some themes, which provides a nice
de> sexy screen.

de> So I'm in the process of switching over to tmux and having to
de> learn the tmux way of things - all because of a sexy screen!

Cosmetic appeal is very important to most people. I don't use a Mac,
but I bet it looks good!

de> I'm probably using 2% of it right now, and its on my list to
de> understand it more, but thats enough for me to be dangerous now.

I'm in the same place. I really like it and am going to get better at
using it, at least the basics. The multi-pane stuff (split windows) is
especially attractive to me.

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> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

Ne> I use screen because I'm used to it. Does everything I need.

Yeah, I've always looked at it that way too. The thing is, once you see
some of the features that can be used, you start to wonder "How did I
ever get by without this?" :-)

The split-window options are excellent. CLI multitasking. Hahaha

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Fri Apr 30 2021 04:57 pm

DM> Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's the first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't
DM> all that often).

What does Ctrl-B do in vi?

(Learning something new about vi every day, and I've only been using it since forever..)

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun May 02 2021 09:48 am

> Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
> By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Fri Apr 30 2021 04:57 pm
>
> DM> Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's the
> DM> first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't
> DM> all that often).
>
> What does Ctrl-B do in vi?

Scrolls backward (Ctrl-F for forward).

> (Learning something new about vi every day, and I've only been using it
> since forever..)

Oh, I know there's plenty about vi/vim I still don't know.

One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.
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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Digital Man to deon on Sat May 01 2021 05:47 pm

>> What does Ctrl-B do in vi?
DM> Scrolls backward (Ctrl-F for forward).

Ahh, ofcourse - I have used it sometimes but not that often.

DM> One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.

So I dont use either of those - I'm a :wq! or :q! exit guy !

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun May 02 2021 13:08:42

DM>> One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit
DM>> mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.

de> So I dont use either of those - I'm a :wq! or :q! exit guy !

You still have to "ESC" before you can :x if you're in edit/insert mode. That's what the ctrl-[ is helpful for.. Interesingly enough, my ESC key is broken, so other than using an on-screen keyboard, I've had to figure this out lately... ;-)

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: BoonDock to deon on Sun May 02 2021 12:30 am

Howdy,

Bo> You still have to "ESC" before you can :x if you're in edit/insert mode. That's what the ctrl-[ is helpful for.. Interesingly enough,
Bo> my ESC key is broken, so other than using an on-screen keyboard, I've had to figure this out lately... ;-)

So you do. Its muscle memory for me and I do it without thinking about it.

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Subject: Screen or tmux?
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Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Gamgee to All on Thu Apr 29 2021 19:52:00

ohmyzsh + ohmytmux + powerline10k + spacevim. Configurable, customizable, can bind all the keys to do the things I want it to do. You can also recover your windows and setup post reboot with tmux-resurrect or tmux-continuum.

> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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-=> Jimmy Mac wrote to Gamgee <=-

JM> Re: Screen or tmux?
JM> By: Gamgee to All on Thu Apr 29 2021 19:52:00

JM> ohmyzsh + ohmytmux + powerline10k + spacevim. Configurable,
JM> customizable, can bind all the keys to do the things I want it to
JM> do. You can also recover your windows and setup post reboot with
JM> tmux-resurrect or tmux-continuum.

Interesting..... thanks.

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-=> Jimmy Mac wrote to Gamgee <=-

JM> @MSGID: <608E25EC.21.dove-unix@baffa.zapto.org>
JM> @REPLY: <608B54B9.392.dove-unix@palantirbbs.ddns.net>
JM> Re: Screen or tmux?
JM> By: Gamgee to All on Thu
JM> Apr 29 2021 19:52:00

JM> ohmyzsh + ohmytmux + powerline10k + spacevim. Configurable,
JM> customizable, can bind all the keys to do the things I want it to do.
JM> You can also recover your windows and setup post reboot with
JM> tmux-resurrect or tmux-continuum.

> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

Screen, but only really because that is what I learned and know, and because it
has zmodem support, which is kind of cool, not because I think it is better.

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun May 02 2021 01:08 pm

> DM> One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.
>
> So I dont use either of those - I'm a :wq! or :q! exit guy !

How do you exit edit mode?
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From: dream.master@VERT/CIAD (Dream Master)
To: Nelgin
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 01:13:00 -0600
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 by: Dream Master - Mon, 3 May 2021 07:13 UTC

-=> Nelgin wrote to Gamgee <=-

Ne> I use screen because I'm used to it. Does everything I need.

I have a love / hate relationship with screen. Even on the best of
days, screen breaks emulation when I go between traditional Linux-based
systems and AIX. AIX uses vt220/vt320 throughout SMIT (smitty). I've
got to the point where I don't use SMIT because the emulation keeps
getting trashed and have to remember command-line syntaxes that go
upwards of 100 characters. :|

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Re: Screen or tmux?

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From: poindexter.fortran@VERT/REALITY (poindexter FORTRAN)
To: Gamgee
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: poindexter FORTRAN - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 06:59 UTC

-=> Gamgee wrote to All <=-

Ga> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

Tmux - it just makes more sense to me. I'm a little late to the game,
playing more with screen multiplexers now. Where I used to open a couple of
Putty sessions, I can now do everything with one session and Tmux.

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Re: Screen or tmux?

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From: poindexter.fortran@VERT/REALITY (poindexter FORTRAN)
To: Arelor
Subject: Re: Screen or tmux?
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 by: poindexter FORTRAN - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 07:01 UTC

-=> Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

Ar> In the end of the day it is just another Vim vs Emacs war.

Makes me want to dig up my old geek code block and update it to add a screen
multiplexer listing.

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