Is there anyone here a Samsung smarttv owner?  I'm wondering if 
the built-in browser cooperates with the functionality of this 
site:

https://bbs.lc/oKmby

https://www.lioapplications.lrc.gov.on.ca/CLUPA/
index.html?viewer=CLUPA.CLUPA&locale=en-CA




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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to All on Sun Jan 01 2023 08:16 am

 > Is there anyone here a Samsung smarttv owner?  I'm wondering if
 > the built-in browser cooperates with the functionality of this
 > site:
 >
 > https://bbs.lc/oKmby
 >
 > https://www.lioapplications.lrc.gov.on.ca/CLUPA/
 > index.html?viewer=CLUPA.CLUPA&locale=en-CA

i'm not sure where our original remote is. we have a newer curved one that's about 4 years old and then an older one.

i'm sure it wouldn't function well. the built in browser is shit.
https://robotpoweredhome.com/internet-browser-on-samsung-tv/
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 M> i'm sure it wouldn't function well. the built in browser is shit.
 M> https://robotpoweredhome.com/internet-browser-on-samsung-tv/

Most of the CONS about the browser are:

[o] Java applications are not compatible.

[o] Flash video files are not supported.

[o] It cannot play certain HTML5-based audio/video content.

But sofar, most sites even YT (they are HTML5 since many years 
ago now) work OK, so that article is outdated.

The first-time use of the browser seemed to have issues with 
certain sites.  But an update was available.  After that, most 
sites cooperated very well.

The browser is Tizen. The update seems to support HTML5 now.

The TV itself was a floor model and the user got it at half 
price.  It's a fairly badass 42" or something.

Another option might be to install a conventional browser and 
operate that as an app.


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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to MRO on Mon Jan 02 2023 05:49 pm

 > But sofar, most sites even YT (they are HTML5 since many years
 > ago now) work OK, so that article is outdated.
 >
 > The first-time use of the browser seemed to have issues with
 > certain sites.  But an update was available.  After that, most
 > sites cooperated very well.

my ex's old samsung tv actually used to work with htmlterm

anyways, you dont know until you use it.
it's not a good browser, no matter how you cut it.

on this newer tv we have i wouldnt want to use it.
 > The TV itself was a floor model and the user got it at half
 > price.  It's a fairly badass 42" or something.
 >
 > Another option might be to install a conventional browser and
 > operate that as an app.

Have them get an androidtv box if they want to use their television for more than a television.

you can get one on amazon with a gaming controller with keyboard and mouse built in, and a remote control for 40 bucks

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Hello MRO!

 >> Another option might be to install a conventional browser and
 >> operate that as an app.

 M> Have them get an androidtv box if they want to use their television for
 M> more than a television.

The client is a bit of a luddite.  Extra gear just confuses 
him.

 M> you can get one on amazon with a gaming controller with keyboard and mouse
 M> built in, and a remote control for 40 bucks

One of the first things I had already done was connect a kb and 
mouse.  That made a world of difference for manipulating the tv 
browser. The orig article mentioned how terrible the browser is 
but it did not mention that the tv can also allow attaching kb 
and mouse.

The client has never used a computer mouse! ..so, watching him 
get acquainted with "left-click" "right-click" and controlling 
scrolling is a bit strainful.  I figure that maybe some kind of 
computer game on the tv would help.

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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to MRO on Tue Jan 03 2023 08:24 am

 >  >> Another option might be to install a conventional browser and
 >  >> operate that as an app.
 >
 >  M> Have them get an androidtv box if they want to use their television for
 >  M> more than a television.
 >
 > The client is a bit of a luddite.  Extra gear just confuses
 > him.
 >

yeah that tv browser will really fuck him.

 >  M> Have them get an androidtv box if they want to use their television for
 >  M> more than a television.
 >
 > The client is a bit of a luddite.  Extra gear just confuses
 > him.

he could do a lot with an androidtv box.
the tv browser is the wrong tool for the job.
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On 1/2/23 21:43, MRO wrote:
 >
 > my ex's old samsung tv actually used to work with htmlterm
 >
 > anyways, you dont know until you use it.
 > it's not a good browser, no matter how you cut it.
 >
 > on this newer tv we have i wouldnt want to use it.

Depends, the software has seen updates... it's a fork of Chrome for Android/Tizen.

 > Have them get an androidtv box if they want to use their television
 > for more than a television.
 >
 > you can get one on amazon with a gaming controller with keyboard and
 > mouse built in, and a remote control for 40 bucks

You can use a USB keyboard/mouse device on the TVs as well, my mom uses one for hers.
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  Re: Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Tracker1 to MRO on Tue Jan 03 2023 05:27 pm

 >
 >  > on this newer tv we have i wouldnt want to use it.
 >
 > Depends, the software has seen updates... it's a fork of Chrome for
 > Android/Tizen.
 >

it depends on the tv.


 >  > you can get one on amazon with a gaming controller with keyboard and
 >  > mouse built in, and a remote control for 40 bucks
 >
 > You can use a USB keyboard/mouse device on the TVs as well, my mom uses
 > one for hers.

..... it depends on the tv.
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Hello MRO!

 >> The client is a bit of a luddite.  Extra gear just confuses
 >> him.

 M> he could do a lot with an androidtv box.
 M> the tv browser is the wrong tool for the job.

Actually, the supplied browser is a good enuff intro to 
accessing the internet.  The tv can operate purely as just a 
display for an actual pc connected to it, but the extra 
equipment and operation would be a bit overwhelming for him at 
this stage.

He also has a Samsung tablet that he doesn't like to use at 
all.

When I get a chance, I will try to see if I can install a 
Chrome app on it.  But for now, the supplied browser seems 
quite nice to use, actually.

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Hello MRO!

 M> Have them get an androidtv box if they want to use their television for
 M> more than a television.

Right now, it's a 50-50 mix of actual TV (satellite) and 
internet (rural internet).


 M> you can get one on amazon with a gaming controller with keyboard and mouse
 M> built in, and a remote control for 40 bucks

I added a keyboard and mouse. The tv has suitable extra USB 
ports or those.  $10 from a thrift shop.



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  Re: Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Tracker1 to MRO on Tue Jan 03 2023 05:27 pm

 > On 1/2/23 21:43, MRO wrote:
 >
 >  > my ex's old samsung tv actually used to work with htmlterm
 >
 >  > anyways, you dont know until you use it.
 >  > it's not a good browser, no matter how you cut it.
 >
 >  > on this newer tv we have i wouldnt want to use it.
 >
 > Depends, the software has seen updates... it's a fork of Chrome for
 > Android/Tizen.
 >

so does it work on your tv?
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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to MRO on Tue Jan 03 2023 11:42 pm

 > Hello MRO!
 >
 >  M> Have them get an androidtv box if they want to use their television for
 >  M> more than a television.
 >
 > Right now, it's a 50-50 mix of actual TV (satellite) and
 > internet (rural internet).
 >

that sounds like it sucks.

 >
 > I added a keyboard and mouse. The tv has suitable extra USB
 > ports or those.  $10 from a thrift shop.

so we have a 65" ju6700. i updated the apps. it says i have the latest browser.
i put in my usb controller and i was able to get into the settings.

it does not load up
https://preview.tinyurl.com/2nsxe6hu

does it work for you?
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Hello MRO!

 M> so we have a 65" ju6700. i updated the apps. it says i have the latest
 M> browser. i put in my usb controller and i was able to get into the
 M> settings.

 M> it does not load up
 M> https://preview.tinyurl.com/2nsxe6hu

Bummer!

What if you visit the root service landing page first:

[1] https://www.ontario.ca/page/crown-land

then..

[2] click on "Crown Land Use Policy Atlas"

then..

[3] click on "Use the Crown Land Use Policy Atlas"



https://www.lioapplications.lrc.gov.on.ca/CLUPA/

 M> does it work for you?

I haven't had the chance to visit my friend/client to find out. 
That's why I'm asking in advance if anyone else could test it.


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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to MRO on Wed Jan 04 2023 06:35 pm

 > [2] click on "Crown Land Use Policy Atlas"
 >
 > then..
 >
 > [3] click on "Use the Crown Land Use Policy Atlas"

it wont render
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Hello MRO!

 M> it wont render

Thx for letting me know.

And.. your tv is using the Tizen browser too?


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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Jan 05 2023 09:24 am

 > Hello MRO!
 >
 >  M> it wont render
 >
 > Thx for letting me know.
 >
 > And.. your tv is using the Tizen browser too?

How would i know? it says browser and i run it.
it's not like a computer where i can click an about box.

it says it's updated. it's a tad older but it's huge and has all the bells and whistles.

I don't even use the tv interface. i have a dell hooked up to it and we stream tv and movies on it.

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 >> And.. your tv is using the Tizen browser too?

 M> How would i know? it says browser and i run it.
 M> it's not like a computer where i can click an about box.

YES, there is (at least on the one I was working with).

Mine has a triple-bar "Settings" icon at the very right, aka 
"hamburger" icon.  Clicking that reveals this:

https://susepaste.org/87163077


 M> I don't even use the tv interface. i have a dell hooked up to it and we
 M> stream tv and movies on it.

That's pretty good and avoids any limitations and awkwardness 
of an unknown browser.  But honestly, I find the Tizen tv 
browser to be quite very much like a regular browser on a pc.


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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to MRO on Fri Jan 06 2023 08:13 am

 > Mine has a triple-bar "Settings" icon at the very right, aka
 > "hamburger" icon.  Clicking that reveals this:
 >
 > https://susepaste.org/87163077

okay now i see.
mine says 1.0.0.1208 which is weird.
i guess samsung doesn't want to update it for our tv.  too hard!
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Hello MRO!

 >> https://susepaste.org/87163077

 M> okay now i see.
 M> mine says 1.0.0.1208 which is weird.
 M> i guess samsung doesn't want to update it for our tv.  too hard!

You can force it to check for updates.  My friend's tv is over 
4 yrs old, and I did the update for him this year.


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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Ogg to MRO on Sat Jan 07 2023 08:54 am

 > Hello MRO!
 >
 >  >> https://susepaste.org/87163077
 >
 >  M> okay now i see.
 >  M> mine says 1.0.0.1208 which is weird.
 >  M> i guess samsung doesn't want to update it for our tv.  too hard!
 >
 > You can force it to check for updates.  My friend's tv is over
 > 4 yrs old, and I did the update for him this year.

well there's a little download arrow on the icon and i clicked it
so i thought they would do it.

i'm not planning on using it again, though.
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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: MRO to Ogg on Sat Jan 07 2023 02:15 am

 MR> okay now i see.
 MR> mine says 1.0.0.1208 which is weird.
 MR> i guess samsung doesn't want to update it for our tv. too hard!

How old is your Samsung TV?  If you already mentioned that in another post, perhaps I don't remember..  I have a Samsung smart TV that I bought in 2015, and I've read Samsung is no longer supporting that platform and are only supporting their 2016 and newer TVs.  I don't want to replace that TV yet, so I bought a Roku streaming device to connect to it.

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  Re: samsung tv, internet browser
  By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Jan 07 2023 11:48 am

 >   Re: samsung tv, internet browser
 >   By: MRO to Ogg on Sat Jan 07 2023 02:15 am
 >
 >  MR> okay now i see.
 >  MR> mine says 1.0.0.1208 which is weird.
 >  MR> i guess samsung doesn't want to update it for our tv. too hard!
 >
 > How old is your Samsung TV?  If you already mentioned that in another post,
 > perhaps I don't remember..  I have a Samsung smart TV that I bought in 2015,
 > and I've read Samsung is no longer supporting that platform and are only
 > supporting their 2016 and newer TVs.  I don't want to replace that TV yet,
 > so I bought a Roku streaming device to connect to it.
 >

it's not mine, but i looked up the model number and there's a review on it in 2017.  it is big, curved and has usb 3 ports.

my experience with samsung smart tvs is the samsung software sucks. my ex had one and it would update and screw up all the time. hers was older than this one and it would get regular updates for some reason and this was 2018.
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 >> You can force it to check for updates.  My friend's tv is over
 >> 4 yrs old, and I did the update for him this year.

 M> well there's a little download arrow on the icon and i clicked it
 M> so i thought they would do it.

 M> i'm not planning on using it again, though.

Yeah, no point to carry on with a perceived tv update if you 
already have a browsing solution with the pc attached.

Thx for testing it for me though.

I was looking for a simple large-screen internet solution for 
use in my shop to demo certain websites and/or products, and 
specifically that Crownland website.

If I could just mount a smarttv on the wall, and attach a 
mouse/kb, I'd be all set.  I wouldn't have room for an 
additional pc nearby.


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Hello MRO!

** On Wednesday 04.01.23 - 06:04, MRO wrote to Ogg:

 M> it does not load up
 M> https://preview.tinyurl.com/2nsxe6hu

I just had the chance to try it myself.

I had the same little activity indicator as in your video.

But..

 M> does it work for you?

Yup.

https://kolico.ca/tmp/ccc1.jpg
https://kolico.ca/tmp/ccc2.jpg
https://kolico.ca/tmp/ccc3.jpg

It was just a matter of waiting for the activity indicator to 
finish.  Then, once in, the response and performance was 
excellent.  The aerial shots where loaded very fast.

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