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* Re: the nothing to hide aMATTHEW MUNSON
`* Re: the nothing to hide aNightfox
 +* Re: the nothing to hide aArelor
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From: matthew.munson@VERT/IUTOPIA (MATTHEW MUNSON)
To: ANDEDDU
Subject: Re: the nothing to hide a
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:38:00 +0000
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 by: MATTHEW MUNSON - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:38 UTC

-=> ANDEDDU wrote to <=-

> yeah what happened to do no evil

AN> They removed that motto back in 2018 after doing a lot of evil.

Yup. I try my best to de-google my web browsers.

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From: nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (Nightfox)
To: MATTHEW MUNSON
Subject: Re: the nothing to hide a
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 by: Nightfox - Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:21 UTC

Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ANDEDDU on Sun Feb 13 2022 08:38 pm

AN>> They removed that motto back in 2018 after doing a lot of evil.

MM> Yup. I try my best to de-google my web browsers.

What search engine do you use? And do you think it returns the same quality of results as Google?

I've thought about moving away from Google, though I've gotten very used to Gmail, and I've been using Android phones for years..

Nightfox

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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Nightfox
Subject: Re: the nothing to hide a
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 by: Arelor - Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:45 UTC

Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
By: Nightfox to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 10:21 am

> What search engine do you use? And do you think it returns the same quality
> results as Google?
>
> I've thought about moving away from Google, though I've gotten very used to
> Gmail, and I've been using Android phones for years..
>
> Nightfox
>

You could use Startpage, which is a proxy/frontend to google.

Duckduckgo is also popular. It is a proxy/frontend for Bing.

Then there are tonnes of Metasearchers, such as a lot of freely available
Searx instances., or Xaarky.

Those generate quality results for searches. Beyond that, it is uncharted
territory. Gigablast is worthy of mention because it is both a FOSS search
engine you can install and deploy (it takes a lot of resources) and a website
you can use for your searches (gigablast.com). Results are not that good,
though.

BUt the best search engine is Veronica 2 for gopherspace. \o/

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From: nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (Nightfox)
To: Arelor
Subject: Re: the nothing to hide a
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 by: Nightfox - Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:36 UTC

Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Mon Feb 14 2022 01:45 pm

Ar> You could use Startpage, which is a proxy/frontend to google.

That's interesting, I hadn't heard about that. I'll have to check it out.

Ar> Duckduckgo is also popular. It is a proxy/frontend for Bing.

I thought DuckDuckGo was its own search engine.. Didn't know it was a frontend for Bing.

Ar> Then there are tonnes of Metasearchers, such as a lot of freely available
Ar> Searx instances., or Xaarky.

I remember using one years ago called SavvySearch. I thought they had disappeared, but it looks like they still exist (maybe they went away for a while and came back?) It looks like they're owned by CBS now.

Nightfox

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
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Subject: Re: the nothing to hide a
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 by: MRO - Mon, 14 Feb 2022 16:55 UTC

Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
By: Nightfox to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 10:21 am

> Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
> By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ANDEDDU on Sun Feb 13 2022 08:38 pm
>
> AN>> They removed that motto back in 2018 after doing a lot of evil.
>
> MM> Yup. I try my best to de-google my web browsers.
>
> What search engine do you use? And do you think it returns the same quality
> of results as Google?
>

bing is actually damn good. it's just that i use google by habit.
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From: boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS (Boraxman)
To: Nightfox
Subject: Re: the nothing to hide a
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 by: Boraxman - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 02:06 UTC

Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
By: Nightfox to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 10:21 am

> Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
> By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ANDEDDU on Sun Feb 13 2022 08:38 pm
>
> AN>> They removed that motto back in 2018 after doing a lot of evil.
>
> MM> Yup. I try my best to de-google my web browsers.
>
> What search engine do you use? And do you think it returns the same quality
> results as Google?
>
> I've thought about moving away from Google, though I've gotten very used to
> Gmail, and I've been using Android phones for years..
>
> Nightfox
>

Duck Duck Go is better in some instances, particularly if you are searching
something where there might be an incentive to skew the results. Searching for
any topic where there might be non-narrative views will yield a wider variety
of hits on Duck Duck Go than Google. Sometimes, the difference is stark.
There is a very obvious bias to Google now.

Google is still better in some specific situations, when searching something
technical with very specific search terms, but Duck Duck Go is good enough to
be my default. Google as a backup.

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