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* demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaOgg
+* demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaMRO
|`* demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaOgg
| `- demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaMRO
+- demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaNightfox
+- Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Operapoindexter FORTRAN
`* Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaNelgin
 +- Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaMRO
 `* demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaOgg
  `* demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaArelor
   +- demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaMRO
   `* demise of FB w/FF and w/OperaOgg
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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: All
Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:49:00 -0400
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 by: Ogg - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 17:49 UTC

Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.

The dynamics required to start a message in the Messenger panel
for replies doesn't work. The cursor might sit blinking in the
message field, but there is no reponse with keystrokes.

As much as I lothe using FB, it is however the only way to
reach (or spy on) some friends or relatives.

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: Ogg
Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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 by: MRO - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 02:23 UTC

Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
By: Ogg to All on Tue Oct 26 2021 08:49 pm

> Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
> 100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.
>
> The dynamics required to start a message in the Messenger panel
> for replies doesn't work. The cursor might sit blinking in the
> message field, but there is no reponse with keystrokes.
>
> As much as I lothe using FB, it is however the only way to
> reach (or spy on) some friends or relatives.

i think you might have some sort of issue on your end, because i just installed opera and logged into fb and i am using the messenger feature fine. just sent someone a msg.
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From: nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (Nightfox)
To: Ogg
Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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 by: Nightfox - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:32 UTC

Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
By: Ogg to All on Tue Oct 26 2021 08:49 pm

Og> Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
Og> 100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.

Og> The dynamics required to start a message in the Messenger panel
Og> for replies doesn't work. The cursor might sit blinking in the
Og> message field, but there is no reponse with keystrokes.

It might not be a sign of demise for Facebook. I have a feeling Facebook (like other companies) probably focus more on their mobile app rather than making sure their web site works 100% for desktop users, unfortunately. I've noticed even their web site these days seems more optimized for mobile use. If I make my web browser window bigger on the screen, I think it looks a little weird - The news feed takes up a fixed-width center column, with some links on the left and contacts on the right. If you have a big monitor and maximize the browser window, there's a lot of empty space on the page.

Nightfox

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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: MRO
Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
Message-ID: <61793B26.4977.dove-int@capitolcityonline.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 00:42:00 -0400
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 by: Ogg - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 04:42 UTC

Hello MRO!

** On Wednesday 27.10.21 - 04:23, MRO wrote to Ogg:

M> i think you might have some sort of issue on your end,
M> because i just installed opera and logged into fb and i am
M> using the messenger feature fine. just sent someone a msg.
M> -+-

This what I see (or rather, don't see) using Opera 36.

https://susepaste.org/78166337

The Messenger window never populates.

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To: Ogg
Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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 by: MRO - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 10:05 UTC

Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
By: Ogg to MRO on Wed Oct 27 2021 07:42 am

> Hello MRO!
>
> ** On Wednesday 27.10.21 - 04:23, MRO wrote to Ogg:
>
> M> i think you might have some sort of issue on your end,
> M> because i just installed opera and logged into fb and i am
> M> using the messenger feature fine. just sent someone a msg.
> M> -+-
>
> This what I see (or rather, don't see) using Opera 36.
>
> https://susepaste.org/78166337
>
> The Messenger window never populates.

it doesn't do that to me. could be you got reported and they did a shadow ban on your ass with one of their services. it happened to me when i was trolling on fb. msger wouldnt load entirely. only happened on one account i had.

use another computer and another browser and see if you have that issue.
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From: poindexter.fortran@VERT/REALITY (poindexter FORTRAN)
To: Ogg
Subject: Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
Message-ID: <61797584.4996.dove.dove-int@realitycheckbbs.org>
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 by: poindexter FORTRAN - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 08:30 UTC

-=> Ogg wrote to All <=-

Og> Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
Og> 100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.

Are those current versions? I'm playing around with switching from Chrome to
Firefox (again), but I barely use Facebook these days.

I stopped using remote desktop to access my work laptop; instead I've been
using Edge on my home system and using the Microsoft 365 apps. I'm pretty
happy with the setup, and like being able to keep work in a different
browser.

.... Trust in the you of now
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Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera

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From: nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS (Nelgin)
To: Ogg
Subject: Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
Message-ID: <6189C469.3064.dove-internet@endofthelinebbs.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 11:44:25 -0600
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 by: Nelgin - Mon, 8 Nov 2021 17:44 UTC

Ogg wrote:
> Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
> 100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.

Is this some really old posting or something? My Opera is v 79.

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To: Nelgin
Subject: Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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 by: MRO - Mon, 8 Nov 2021 19:25 UTC

Re: Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
By: Nelgin to Ogg on Mon Nov 08 2021 06:44 pm

> Ogg wrote:
> > Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
> > 100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.
>
> Is this some really old posting or something? My Opera is v 79.

looks like firefox is v 94, also.
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To: Nelgin
Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 14:05:00 -0500
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 by: Ogg - Tue, 9 Nov 2021 19:05 UTC

Hello Nelgin!

** On Monday 08.11.21 - 18:44, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

N> Ogg wrote:
>> Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
>> 100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.

N> Is this some really old posting or something? My Opera is v 79.

I think Opera 36 is the highest that is supported on XP. My XP
laptop is my preferred machine.

Anyway.. the Facebook matter kinda cleared up actually. There
was apparently a big lag in the prompt field in Messenger. The
delay is not as bad anymore.

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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Ogg
Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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 by: Arelor - Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:09 UTC

Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
By: Ogg to Nelgin on Tue Nov 09 2021 09:05 pm

> Hello Nelgin!
>
> ** On Monday 08.11.21 - 18:44, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:
>
> N> Ogg wrote:
> >> Well.. It has finally come to pass. Facebook doesn't operate
> >> 100% with FireFox 52.8.0 or Opera 36.
>
> N> Is this some really old posting or something? My Opera is v 79.
>
> I think Opera 36 is the highest that is supported on XP. My XP
> laptop is my preferred machine.
>
> Anyway.. the Facebook matter kinda cleared up actually. There
> was apparently a big lag in the prompt field in Messenger. The
> delay is not as bad anymore.

I'd consider that a qwake up call to install Tiny Core Linux or some other
lightweight operating system on it which is still modern.Unless the thing has
less than 2 Gb of RAM, in which case it is not much use as a desktop if you
load a new OS on it.

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To: Arelor
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 by: MRO - Wed, 10 Nov 2021 19:45 UTC

Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
By: Arelor to Ogg on Wed Nov 10 2021 05:09 pm

> I'd consider that a qwake up call to install Tiny Core Linux or some other
> lightweight operating system on it which is still modern.Unless the thing
> has less than 2 Gb of RAM, in which case it is not much use as a desktop if
> you load a new OS on it.
>

yeah someone shouldnt be running windows xp nowadays. he can get a computer that runs windows 10 for pretty cheap.

i have 3 computers in my basement that can run windows 10 just fine. that's if the moisture didnt fuck them up
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Subject: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
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 by: Ogg - Sun, 14 Nov 2021 05:48 UTC

Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 10.11.21 - 17:09, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

>> Anyway.. the Facebook matter kinda cleared up actually. There
>> was apparently a big lag in the prompt field in Messenger. The
>> delay is not as bad anymore.

A> I'd consider that a qwake up call to install Tiny Core Linux or some other
A> lightweight operating system on it which is still modern.Unless the thing
A> has less than 2 Gb of RAM, in which case it is not much use as a desktop
A> if you load a new OS on it.

I have noticed that some of the distros would allow operating
newer versions of FF. That would be good.

The Thinkpad has 3GB ram - the max. I have tried several
LiveCDs on it. Mint or Cinnamon cooperated quite nicely.

But I am not going to let poor Facebook performance determine
my computer future. ;)

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 by: Arelor - Sun, 14 Nov 2021 14:51 UTC

Re: demise of FB w/FF and w/Opera
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Nov 14 2021 07:48 am

> The Thinkpad has 3GB ram - the max. I have tried several
> LiveCDs on it. Mint or Cinnamon cooperated quite nicely.
>

I think that, unless you use some OS specific application, upgrading that
machine to Linux is a no-brainer.

Not because of Facebook specifically. A lot of not-so-modern web applications
will give you trouble with old browsers and operating systems.

Not to mention it is reckless to use an old unsuported OS in an Internet facing
machine.

Given the upgrade cost is zero, you could make yourself a gift and use
something more recent.

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