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||| |`* Someone should make that happen..Ogg
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||| | |`* Someone should make that happen..Ogg
||| | | `* Someone should make that happen..Arelor
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Re: Telegram chat(s)

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From: daitengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE (DaiTengu)
To: MRO
Subject: Re: Telegram chat(s)
Message-ID: <614B72BD.4041.dove-internet@warensemble.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:15:25 -0500
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 by: DaiTengu - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:15 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Sep 06 2021 03:36 pm

MR> i made the mistake of letting this run when i was cleaning my pet's cages
MR> and my fishtank.

MR> he started getting really bad talking about this 18 year old woman he
MR> knocked up at 30, then showing his kid's pics and going on these rants
MR> about crazy shit. saying it's not his fault he can't keep a job or take
MR> care of his kids.

MR> he said baby momma's last name was sanford. i wonder if that was eli's
MR> sister. it's hard to make it out.

MR> i was like god damn dude. you should be on a government watch list.
MR> he wasn't that bad before, he must be using crystal meth or huffing.

MR> atleast he took down the confederate flag off the wall.

Jesus fuck, that guy.

https://www.freelancer.com/projects/c-programming/convert-the-source-code-probo ard/?ngsw-bypass=&w=f

how the hell did he get the source to ProBoard? A few years ago Philippe mentioned he wanted to give away the source code on Twitter, and a year later he said there were some copyright issues.

ProBoard was the first BBS software I ever seriously ran, because all the BBSes in this area used it. (Mr. Homie's Neighborhood, which moved down to Milwaukee was one of them).

I eventually moved to Synchronet in the late 90s and didn't really look back.

DaiTengu

.... He was a man, all and all, I shall not look upon his like again.

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■ Synchronet ■ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com

Re: KICQ as an "Old New I

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Subject: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
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 by: Arelor - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:30 UTC

Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Tracker1 to Arelor on Tue Sep 21 2021 04:39 pm

> On 9/5/2021 6:26 AM, Arelor wrote:
>
> > So yes, it is awesome that you can afford to have 32 Gb of RAM on
> > your weakest computer. But that is not an argument to make to a
> > guy whose pro-computer fleet has no computer with more than 2.
>
> I wasn't trying to be offensive... only mentioning that 16+ has been
> widely available for a while, at least in the US. I'm often very
> surprised when I see something with less than 8gb.
>
> There's definitely some hard press to try to get something running that
> low on resources with a modern desktop. There was some options in
> Windows XP that let you use a fast USB or other drive as extension
> memory. Not sure if you can still do that in Windows or Linux.

You can pull it off with Linux for sure. Just swapon the external drive :-)

I was testing some setup for deployment yesterday. I used a workstation of 2 GB of RAM and a
processor so cingeworthy I am not going to ashame myself by giving its specs here.

The thing can run Firefox, Thunderbird and Libreoffice at the same time. It swaps from time to time
but you can certainly use it in a pitch. If you can write reports in Writer while notifying
insurance companies of a case's status via a web portal, while you get mails and live updates
regarding events and schedules via calendar addons, then I think it is safe to say the computer you
do it all from is usable :-)

I also tested OpenBSD. Putting the working environment together was a bit hackish but it also does
well. I think it is a bit more responsive than Linux in some regards but their Thunderbird
implementation is slower.

I also tried Tiny Core Linux. That thing rocks. It is blazing fast and you don't realize you are
using a stoneage computer. The drawback is the distribution is no suitable for firmwork because the
repositories lack package signing and the process by which they accept package submissions is too
free-for-all.

--
gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

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■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL

Re: Telegram chat(s)

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To: DaiTengu
Subject: Re: Telegram chat(s)
Message-ID: <614C3CE4.1032.dove-int@bbses.info>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 20:37:56 -0500
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 by: MRO - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 01:37 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Wed Sep 22 2021 01:15 pm

> MR> atleast he took down the confederate flag off the wall.
>
> Jesus fuck, that guy.
>
> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/c-programming/convert-the-source-code-pr
> obo ard/?ngsw-bypass=&w=f
>
>
> how the hell did he get the source to ProBoard? A few years ago Philippe
> mentioned he wanted to give away the source code on Twitter, and a year
> later he said there were some copyright issues.
>

i think someone just posted it on the internet. he has paid people for it in the past, or so he says so he thinks he owns it. he said he paid clawson money for it and he got an asm dump. pcmike looked at the paperwork and the signatures were all computer generated. he would talk about it on irc and i'd go back in the logs and catch him lying so who knows what the truth is.

he obviously has mental illness and probably drug problems.
night now he says he needs gofundme money to fight his ex in court because he has fleas.

philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues.
clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed. according to his obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name/patrick-clawson-obituary?pid=176308972
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Re: Telegram chat(s)

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To: MRO
Subject: Re: Telegram chat(s)
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 01:42:40 -0500
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 by: DaiTengu - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 06:42 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:37 am

MR> philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues.
MR> clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed. according to his
MR> obituary he has heirs.
MR> https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name/patrick-clawson-obituary?
MR> pid=176308972 ---

I tried to find out what happened to Telegrafix and Clawson yesterday, I came across that Obituary but didn't think it was his, as there was no mention of running a company, or living in CA or VA (Where Telegrafix came from/moved to)

DaiTengu

.... I'm not broke, I'm just badly bent.

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Re: Telegram chat(s)

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Subject: Re: Telegram chat(s)
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Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Thu Sep 23 2021 08:42 am

> Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
> By: MRO to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:37 am
>
>
> MR> philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues.
> MR> clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed. according to his
> MR> obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name
> MR> /patrick-clawson-obituary? pid=176308972 ---
>
> I tried to find out what happened to Telegrafix and Clawson yesterday, I
> came across that Obituary but didn't think it was his, as there was no
> mention of running a company, or living in CA or VA (Where Telegrafix came
> from/moved to)
>

yeah that's him. or i'm pretty sure it is. that's the obit that was announced back when he died.
the radio and reporting stuff is stuff clawson was involved in.
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Re: Telegram chat(s)

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To: DaiTengu
Subject: Re: Telegram chat(s)
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 04:20:40 -0700
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 by: Digital Man - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 11:20 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Wed Sep 22 2021 01:15 pm

> Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
> By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Sep 06 2021 03:36 pm
>
> MR> i made the mistake of letting this run when i was cleaning my pet's
> MR> cages and my fishtank.
>
> MR> he started getting really bad talking about this 18 year old woman he
> MR> knocked up at 30, then showing his kid's pics and going on these rants
> MR> about crazy shit. saying it's not his fault he can't keep a job or take
> MR> care of his kids.
>
> MR> he said baby momma's last name was sanford. i wonder if that was eli's
> MR> sister. it's hard to make it out.
>
> MR> i was like god damn dude. you should be on a government watch list.
> MR> he wasn't that bad before, he must be using crystal meth or huffing.
>
> MR> atleast he took down the confederate flag off the wall.
>
> Jesus fuck, that guy.
>
> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/c-programming/convert-the-source-code-pr
> obo ard/?ngsw-bypass=&w=f
>
>
> how the hell did he get the source to ProBoard? A few years ago Philippe
> mentioned he wanted to give away the source code on Twitter, and a year
> later he said there were some copyright issues.

"The dating system will need need a complete rewrite. Making it 4 year dating only." - he only wants to date for 4 years!

Hey, that project is marked as "completed" - so its done, right?

> ProBoard was the first BBS software I ever seriously ran, because all the
> BBSes in this area used it. (Mr. Homie's Neighborhood, which moved down to
> Milwaukee was one of them).

I don't think I've ever actually seen a ProBoard system. <shrug>

> I eventually moved to Synchronet in the late 90s and didn't really look
> back.

:-)
--
digital man

Rush quote #13:
Cast in this unlikely role, ill-equipped to act, with insufficient tact
Norco, CA WX: 85.6°F, 37.0% humidity, 3 mph NNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
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Re: Telegram chat(s)

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 by: Digital Man - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 11:25 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:37 am

> philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues.
> clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed.

That does seem extremely unlikely.

> according to his
> obituary he has heirs.
> https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name/patrick-clawson
> -obituary?pid=176308972

I didn't know he passed away. Thanks.
--
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 by: Digital Man - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 11:26 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Thu Sep 23 2021 08:42 am

> Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
> By: MRO to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:37 am
>
>
> MR> philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues.
> MR> clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed. according to his
> MR> obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name
> MR> /patrick-clawson-obituary? pid=176308972 ---
>
> I tried to find out what happened to Telegrafix and Clawson yesterday, I
> came across that Obituary but didn't think it was his, as there was no
> mention of running a company, or living in CA or VA (Where Telegrafix came
> from/moved to)

I remember when I talked to Pat on the phone once or twice he liked to brag about his experience at CNN and his accumulated awards. It sounds like the right guy to me.
--
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 by: poindexter FORTRAN - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 07:15 UTC

-=> Arelor wrote to Tracker1 <=-

> There's definitely some hard press to try to get something running that
> low on resources with a modern desktop. There was some options in
> Windows XP that let you use a fast USB or other drive as extension
> memory. Not sure if you can still do that in Windows or Linux.

Yes, it's called ReadyBoost, it acts as a disk cache if memory serves.

Ar> I was testing some setup for deployment yesterday. I used a workstation
Ar> of 2 GB of RAM and a processor so cingeworthy I am not going to ashame
Ar> myself by giving its specs here.

I used a Thinkpad T42 for years with Lubuntu. 1.7Ghz single-core CPU, 2 GB
of DDR RAM, 5400 RPM PATA drive, later updated to a PATA SSD. It did
everything I could throw at it except for full-screen video. It was a little
choppy.

Best damn keyboard on a laptop, ever. Best industrial design on a laptop,
IMO. The T4x series were a high-water mark for 4:3 laptops.

.... Move towards the unimportant
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Re: Telegram chat(s)

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To: Digital Man
Subject: Re: Telegram chat(s)
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 06:59:46 -0700
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 by: Nightfox - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 13:59 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: Digital Man to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 11:20 am

> ProBoard was the first BBS software I ever seriously ran, because
> all the BBSes in this area used it. (Mr. Homie's Neighborhood, which
> moved down to Milwaukee was one of them).

DM> I don't think I've ever actually seen a ProBoard system. <shrug>

I seem to remember there being a few ProBoard BBSes in my area in the 90s.

I'd heard ProBoard started as a clone of QuickBBS. Similarly, RemoteAccess (which I had ran in the 90s) also was a clone of QuickBBS..

Nightfox

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Re: KICQ as an "Old New I

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 by: Tracker1 - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 15:40 UTC

On 9/22/2021 8:42 AM, Nightfox wrote:
>> Really wanting to switch back to Linux (PopOS), but also wanting to
>> try some AI up-scaling for video, that's limited to Windows. May have
>> to stick a second drive in again so I can dual-boot cleaner.
>
> Is it Topaz Video Enhance AI by chance? I've been using that on and
> off since about April last year to do some video upscaling. I've
> considered switching to Linux for a long time but haven't due to
> software, and now Topaz Video Enhance AI is one reason why.

That would be the one... been meaning to play with it, I have some DVDs
that don't have HD versions that I'd been wanting to upscale, though
dual boot should work for the future... also, not sure how much I'm
willing to deal with the secure boot in windows, and if it will/won't
work in Linux for me.

How has it been working for you... now that I have a 3080, hoping it
will chew through it relatively quickly.
--
Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com
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Subject: Topaz Video Enhance AI
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 10:17:07 -0700
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 by: Nightfox - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:17 UTC

Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:40 pm

>> Is it Topaz Video Enhance AI by chance? I've been using that on and

Tr> That would be the one... been meaning to play with it, I have some DVDs
Tr> that don't have HD versions that I'd been wanting to upscale, though
Tr> dual boot should work for the future... also, not sure how much I'm
Tr> willing to deal with the secure boot in windows, and if it will/won't
Tr> work in Linux for me.

Tr> How has it been working for you... now that I have a 3080, hoping it
Tr> will chew through it relatively quickly.

I have an RTX 3070 Super, and have been wanting to upgrade to a 3080.. I just don't want to pay more than necessary to a scalper for one..

I've upscaled some DVD movies & TV shows to 4K (and occasionally to 1080). The source video resolution and aspect ratio seems to affect the upscaling time significantly. I was upscaling some TV shows from DVD (in 4:3 format) to 4K, and if I remember, about a 45-minute episode would take my PC about 8-12 hours to upscale to 4K with my 2070. Video with a widescreen resolution seems to take a bit longer.

One thing I noticed is that no matter what output resolution you're upscaling to, it takes longer if the source image resolution is higher. Upscaling a DVD to 4K takes significantly less time than upscaling 1080p video to 4K.

Also, the output format you choose and the AI model you use affect the upscaling time as well (the software includes several AI models you can use, and they also have different options you can tweak). For the output format, you can output to a MP4 video or output to PNG images which you'd then have to make into a video afterward (you could use ffmpeg for that). If you use PNG images, it will take longer and use more drive space, but theoretically it would offer better video quality. Also, if you have it output to MP4, I've found its MP4 files can be quite large, and you may want to compress them afterward (I'd sometimes use Handbrake for that).

Nightfox

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Subject: Re: Telegram chat(s)
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 by: MRO - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:03 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Sep 23 2021 11:25 am

> > according to his
> > obituary he has heirs.
> > https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name/patrick-clawson
> > -obituary?pid=176308972
>
> I didn't know he passed away. Thanks.

he had the same middle name as this obit and his obituary was also posted in winchester,va so think this is the guy.

someone posted it on facebook years ago.
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 by: MRO - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:06 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: Digital Man to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 11:26 am

> > mention of running a company, or living in CA or VA (Where Telegrafix
> > came from/moved to)
>
> I remember when I talked to Pat on the phone once or twice he liked to brag
> about his experience at CNN and his accumulated awards. It sounds like the
> right guy to me.

apparently he was loved by a lot of people which is in contrast to how he was to his customers. he was a real vicious person when dealing with the bbs community. people were very demanding back then, though.
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 by: Nelgin - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 00:14 UTC

knightbbs wrote:
> MR> nobody uses instant msging anymore.
>
> Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in, having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.

I used ICQ, AIM, Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger...I still remember my ICQ
number, and it's only 7 digits :)

I'm pretty bummed YIM shut down, that was a decent messenger. In the end I
used some multi-messenger program, I forgot which, but then people started
moving away and using FB and snapchat and stuff. I don't have a snap, or a
tictok...well, I do because I had to post something for a contest, but other
than that I never use them.

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 by: MRO - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 06:38 UTC

Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Nelgin to knightbbs on Thu Sep 30 2021 02:14 am

> knightbbs wrote:
> > MR> nobody uses instant msging anymore.
>
> > Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main
> > means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in,
> > having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
>
> I used ICQ, AIM, Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger...I still remember my ICQ

did you purposely not quote the date so i couldnt call you a necroposter
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To: Nelgin
Subject: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
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 by: poindexter FORTRAN - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 07:20 UTC

-=> Nelgin wrote to knightbbs <=-

Ne> I'm pretty bummed YIM shut down, that was a decent messenger. In the
Ne> end I used some multi-messenger program, I forgot which, but then
Ne> people started moving away and using FB and snapchat and stuff.

There was a golden age where GAIM (and it's later incarnation, Pidgin) were
a part of work and play. I had a security chat on SILC, some friends on
Yahoo, work used AIM (with a proxy so we could connect when the net was
down), I had a Jabber server running, and other friends elsewhere. Skype
even worked, if only for chat. I'd even had it plugged into Synchro.net's
IRC network.

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 by: Nightfox - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:54 UTC

Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Nelgin to knightbbs on Thu Sep 30 2021 02:14 am

Ne> I used ICQ, AIM, Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger...I still remember my ICQ
Ne> number, and it's only 7 digits :)

I used to use ICQ too, and I remember mine as well.

Ne> I'm pretty bummed YIM shut down, that was a decent messenger. In the end I
Ne> used some multi-messenger program, I forgot which, but then people started
Ne> moving away and using FB and snapchat and stuff. I don't have a snap, or a
Ne> tictok...well, I do because I had to post something for a contest, but
Ne> other than that I never use them.

I'm bummed that pretty much all the major messenger services have shut down (I think ICQ still works, but it's not the same as it used to be). And I don't think Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, etc. are quite the same.

Years ago, Microsoft merged MSN Messenger into Skype, and then all my MSN Messenger contacts disappeared (they didn't get migrated to my Skype contact list). I was bummed about that.

Nightfox

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Subject: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
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 by: Nightfox - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 11:09 UTC

Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nelgin on Thu Sep 30 2021 07:20 am

PF> There was a golden age where GAIM (and it's later incarnation, Pidgin)
PF> were a part of work and play. I had a security chat on SILC, some friends
PF> on Yahoo, work used AIM (with a proxy so we could connect when the net was
PF> down), I had a Jabber server running, and other friends elsewhere. Skype
PF> even worked, if only for chat. I'd even had it plugged into Synchro.net's
PF> IRC network.

I liked those multi-chat clients, but I noticed sometimes they didn't seem to work well all the time with all the different chat protocols. I knew a couple people who used Pidgin & similar, and sometimes it seemed their chat app would report me online when I wasn't or vice-versa. Or sometimes I'd try to send them a file from my chat client and they couldn't receive it, etc..

Nightfox

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 by: DaiTengu - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 12:39 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:37 am

MR> i think someone just posted it on the internet. he has paid people for it
MR> in the past, or so he says so he thinks he owns it. he said he paid
MR> clawson money for it and he got an asm dump. pcmike looked at the
MR> paperwork and the signatures were all computer generated. he would talk
MR> about it on irc and i'd go back in the logs and catch him lying so who
MR> knows what the truth is.

Philippe got back to me.
https://twitter.com/phley/status/1443039232700739589

"Yes, it's legit, he "bought" the rights from Jeff Reeder, former employee of Telegrafix. Although I have my doubts about who actually had the rights to ProBoard after Pat died."

So there we go. It's probably not worth persuing, although I do wonder how much that nutjob paid for it.

I mean, he looks like he lives in a trailer park, so it can't be much...

DaiTengu

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 by: MRO - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:01 UTC

Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Thu Sep 30 2021 02:39 pm

> "Yes, it's legit, he "bought" the rights from Jeff Reeder, former employee
> of Telegrafix. Although I have my doubts about who actually had the rights
> to ProBoard after Pat died."
>

oh i remember that twist. who knows if it was really him though.
i dont believe anything slasher says. he's so full of it it's incredible.

he cant buy the rights from someone that doesnt own the rights, anyways.

> I mean, he looks like he lives in a trailer park, so it can't be much...

that's giving trailer parks a bad name.
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 by: poindexter FORTRAN - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 06:12 UTC

-=> Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Ni> seem to work well all the time with all the different chat protocols.
Ni> I knew a couple people who used Pidgin & similar, and sometimes it
Ni> seemed their chat app would report me online when I wasn't or
Ni> vice-versa. Or sometimes I'd try to send them a file from my chat
Ni> client and they couldn't receive it, etc..

It was nice to be able to use end-to-end encryption with pidgin-OTR - and
this was 2007 or so!

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 by: Nelgin - Sun, 3 Oct 2021 14:55 UTC

Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Nelgin on Thu Sep 30 2021 08:38:02

> did you purposely not quote the date so i couldnt call you a necroposter

It only just showed up here so either something got something stuck and finally send it out, or someone dumped a lot of dupes that were so old I didn't have them any more so no idea.

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Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Nelgin to MRO on Sun Oct 03 2021 04:55 pm

> Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
> By: MRO to Nelgin on Thu Sep 30 2021 08:38:02
>
> > did you purposely not quote the date so i couldnt call you a necroposter
>
> It only just showed up here so either something got something stuck and
> finally send it out, or someone dumped a lot of dupes that were so old I
> didn't have them any more so no idea.

what kind of setup do you have there? synchronet isnt that hard and you shouldn't have that problem.
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Heh, you are necroing an old thread

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 by: Ogg - Fri, 15 Oct 2021 05:45 UTC

Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 06.09.21 - 06:23, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

A> There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think
A> something is necro when it happens long after interest on the thread has
A> waned.

For me, I mark messages that I consider worthy of a reply, but
something to do later. Most of that time (ie, recently) that
"later" turns out to me a few months. By then, the main topic
could surely have wained or diminished in messaging activity,
but it doesn't mean that a new resurfaced reply couldn't be of
interested to watching eyes. Most people are just lurkers it
seems, anyway.

A> [...] I bet Tracker1 lives in a dark tower of power and spends his
A> time reading black tomes while listening to The Spell and raising dead
A> threads from the grave.

LOL <g>

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