Hello MRO!

** On Wednesday 21.07.21 - 09:54, MRO wrote to Ogg:

>> The minimum requirement for %userprofile is Real Name.
>>
>> The other parts, %LIST and %HELP are no different than what
>> any sysop is used to.

M> or they could just moderate the channel instead of having
M> people jump through hoops -+-

It *is* moderated if it has to be. But to get started, all you
have to do is start the @Fido2telebot and send it the %LIST
command, and in a few seconds-to-minutes you will get all the
groups/echos that are bridged to the FTN.

The list will provide the links that you can click on to JOIN.
You can start reading any of those groups (and their
backhistory of messages) immediately.

To post, some of the groups need you to establish %realname
(primarily to conform to FTN requirements) some do not. But if
all you want to do is read, you don't have to do anything else.

Two steps: [1] %Fido2telebot, [2] %LIST. That's not much of a
jump through a loop. ;)

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Hello pF!

** On Monday 19.07.21 - 08:06, you wrote to me:

pF> Here's a shout-out to Keepass and Google Drive. I keep my
pF> keepass file in Google Drive and have my passwords on my
pF> phone *and* on my desktop and laptop.

I'm still leery of putting my trust into an app like Keepass.

Instead, I use a "formula" to create a password depending on
the site/domain that I visit. That way, I can conjur up a pw
at anytime from any other device.

I don't even need to remember the PIN for my credit cards.
Instead, I just remember a pattern/sequence.

pF> I use a plugin to add a "Connect via Putty" and "Connect
pF> Via WinSCP" right- click entry, so I for the systems I
pF> don't use a key with I can automatically connect without
pF> having to copy/paste creds.

What plugin is that? I find that SyncTerm seems to "remember"
the SSH creds and logins are automatic.

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Re: Someone should make that happen..
By: Ogg to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 25 2021 01:32 pm

> Hello pF!
>
> ** On Monday 19.07.21 - 08:06, you wrote to me:
>
> pF> Here's a shout-out to Keepass and Google Drive. I keep my
> pF> keepass file in Google Drive and have my passwords on my
> pF> phone *and* on my desktop and laptop.
>
> I'm still leery of putting my trust into an app like Keepass.
>

keepass keeps all your data with you.
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Og> What plugin is that? I find that SyncTerm seems to "remember"
Og> the SSH creds and logins are automatic.

QuickConnect plugin for Keepass. I swear by it at work, I have a ton of
systems that I'm converting over to public key that still use unique
passwords.

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On 7/20/2021 1:45 AM, Arelor wrote:
> My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
>
> Don't forget to send your RAM to the hospital so they can use a
> rape kit on it after Discord is finished with it.

Every computer in my home has at least 32gb in it.

Discord sitting at 287mb here, which is pretty high for what it is...
Though I'm sitting with 40GB available, and about to drop in another
64gb with a new video card when it gets in tomorrow.
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On 7/20/2021 6:54 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
>> If you like the Google Drive approach, Nextcloud would also work, pluss
>> it has its own integrated password management solution via plugins.
>
> If I ever move back to a "real" ISP, the first thing I'll do is put a box on
> a UPS at my house and go back to self-hosting. I did that way back when on a
> server-friendly ISP and enjoyed running my own services.
>
> I could put it on a VPS, but the data would be (I think) unencrypted and in
> the cloud - unless I'm mistaken. If there was a way to encrypt data at rest,
> I'd be all over that.
If you self-host in the cloud, you can use an encrypted volume if you
like, but given that volume can boot without a passphrase, it doesn't
provide *that* much security. A few people will use FUSE mounts for the
likes of S3 or similar, then encrypt that data... it'd be at rest across
a different system than the server itself, which is slightly better.

Getting my pihole and wireguard setup this weekend, at least that's the
plan.
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On 7/20/2021 3:03 PM, Ogg wrote:
>> http://t.me/aztracker1
>
> We connected. Good to meet you.

You as well.

>> https://t.me/bbsiochat
>> but the group is really dead...
>
> I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group, since
> it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?

I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) .. my messages in
the group show up as bbsiochat, which is kind of annoying.

>> If anyone has other groups to share that they like.
>
> I'm linked up with ProgrammerJokes and one of the RT news
> channels. I don't think I would even want more at this point.
>
> https://t.me/rtintl
> https://t.me/programmerjokes
>
> The vast majority of my other links are the Fido2Telegram
> groups (via @Fido2Telebot) which are linked to the echos with
> Fidonet.

I'm going to have to followup, apparently my phone number is banned
(google voice number), so emailed telegram to see if they can unban or
convert me to my carrier number... *sigh* I don't like using the
carrier number as I've never memorized it and switched carriers without
porting my number a couple times now.
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On 7/20/2021 7:52 PM, Nightfox wrote:
>> Windows 11 has that too (works with Android, dunno about iOS). Of
>> course, I've been using Google Voice, since it was Grand Central
>> before Google bought them, so using my phone and desktop is pretty
>> much been it... though I've also experienced every pain of Google's
>> schizophrenic approach to chat applications.
>
> That's cool. I heard Windows 11 is supposed to be able to run Android
> apps.

Yeah, apparently the feature will be post-release (October 5th) though.
I haven't seen/tried it on insiders though.

> I had a Samsung phone not too long ago, and they had some software for
> Windows PCs that would let you control your phone from your PC. It
> would show the phone's screen on your PC and you could interact with
> it using that software. I thought it was interesting.

Some Samsung (and other) phones actually have a hub/desktop mode where
you can use a usb3 dock and get a desktop experience, that seems kind of
cool too. Hadn't seen the mirroring.

The win11 integration, I haven't used much and it's a little annoying to me.
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Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: Tracker1 to Ogg on Fri Sep 03 2021 06:56 pm

> > I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group, since
> > it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?
>
> I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) .. my messages in
> the group show up as bbsiochat, which is kind of annoying.

you mean the guy who claims to be the owner but has the leaked source, right?
he's so full of shit his eyes are brown.
he's been busted multiple times.
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Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to Tracker1 on Sat Sep 04 2021 06:03 am

> Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
> By: Tracker1 to Ogg on Fri Sep 03 2021 06:56 pm
>
> > > I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group, since
> > > it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?
>
> > I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) .. my messages in
> > the group show up as bbsiochat, which is kind of annoying.
>
> you mean the guy who claims to be the owner but has the leaked source,
> right? he's so full of shit his eyes are brown.
> he's been busted multiple times.

man this dude is mentally ill.

https://youtu.be/yfFjzvCdH90?t=10823
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Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Fri Sep 03 2021 06:58 pm

>> That's cool. I heard Windows 11 is supposed to be able to run Android
>> apps.

Tr> Yeah, apparently the feature will be post-release (October 5th) though.
Tr> I haven't seen/tried it on insiders though.

I've seen Android emulators for Windows that let you run Android apps on Windows. So it's something that's out there already. It seems Microsoft wants it included with Windows.. I wonder if it will be more of a seamless feature being integrated into Windows.

Tr> Some Samsung (and other) phones actually have a hub/desktop mode where
Tr> you can use a usb3 dock and get a desktop experience, that seems kind of
Tr> cool too. Hadn't seen the mirroring.

I had a Samsung S20 phone that did that, or at least something like that. I thought it was cool. It didn't need a dock - I could plug my phone into my PC with a USB3 cable, and the Samsung software would let me basically see my phone screen on my PC and interact with it from my PC that way.

Nightfox

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Hello Tracker1!

** On Friday 03.09.21 - 18:56, Tracker1 wrote to Ogg:

>>> https://t.me/bbsiochat
>>> but the group is really dead...
>>
>> I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group,
>> since it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?

T> I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) ..
T> my messages in the group show up as bbsiochat, which is
T> kind of annoying.

I don't see any messages posted by "bbsiochat" in there. There
is an occassional post from someone using the id "Group"
though. Is that you?

>> The vast majority of my other links are the Fido2Telegram
>> groups (via @Fido2Telebot) which are linked to the echos
>> with Fidonet.

T> I'm going to have to followup, apparently my phone number
T> is banned (google voice number), so emailed telegram to see
T> if they can unban or convert me to my carrier number...
T> *sigh* I don't like using the carrier number as I've never
T> memorized it and switched carriers without porting my
T> number a couple times now.

You don't have to change numbers. Why not continue your account
as @azTracker1 ?

In any case, the folks at Telegram are very helpful if you run
into a ban situation and explain the circumstances. My number
was banned at one point. My number is a standard number with my
cellphone. By then, I had already installed Telegram on 3
devices. I just wanted one more device. But as soon as I went
to register/activate the installation, I got a "number is
banned" message. :( But an email to Telegram Support sorted
it all out within 12 hours.

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Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Tracker1 to Arelor on Fri Sep 03 2021 06:39 pm

> On 7/20/2021 1:45 AM, Arelor wrote:
> > My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
>
> > Don't forget to send your RAM to the hospital so they can use a
> > rape kit on it after Discord is finished with it.
>
> Every computer in my home has at least 32gb in it.
>
> Discord sitting at 287mb here, which is pretty high for what it is...
> Though I'm sitting with 40GB available, and about to drop in another
> 64gb with a new video card when it gets in tomorrow.

Heh, you are necroing an old thread.

Besides, it is awesome that the weakest of your computers has more RAM that
every computer in my house combined, including smartphones. However, some of us
have a tight budget and make do with scrapyard computers, and 250+mb is
somethig you DO notice when the rest of what you are doing in the same computer
takes less than 400 mb combined.And you notice it more when you are using
computers with 1 or 2 Gb of RAM.

My most powerful computer is from 2007, and it was obsoleted already.

There is a lot of talk of being socially inclusive and whatnot in the IT
industry, but something I often hear is:

"We should deprecate this technology because nobody is using it"

or

"Let's make this thing a requirenment, everybody already has it, after all"

The irony is that they end up deprecating technology because they don't use it
anymore despite the fact there are lange numbers of people in less wealthy
countries depending on the now deprecated technology. They don't care if
somebody from Africa's screwed up because their lame software now requires more
RAM than the whole village can afford.

Also, Linux distributions were deprecating CD releases in favor of DVD releases
"because nobody uses CDs anymore" despite the fact CD production was ON THE
RISE WORLDWIDE because lots of poor countries prefer CDs over DVDs due to
price.

So it seems to me the IT industry is inclusive until the time comes to include
people with no money or resources. Those we can screw up.

So yes, it is awesome that you can afford to have 32 Gb of RAM on your weakest
computer. But that is not an argument to make to a guy whose pro-computer fleet
has no computer with more than 2.

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Re: Re: Someone should make that happen..
By: Tracker1 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 03 2021 06:43 pm

> On 7/20/2021 6:54 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
> >> If you like the Google Drive approach, Nextcloud would also work, pluss
> >> it has its own integrated password management solution via plugins.
>
> > If I ever move back to a "real" ISP, the first thing I'll do is put a box
> > a UPS at my house and go back to self-hosting. I did that way back when on
> > server-friendly ISP and enjoyed running my own services.
>
> > I could put it on a VPS, but the data would be (I think) unencrypted and i
> > the cloud - unless I'm mistaken. If there was a way to encrypt data at res
> > I'd be all over that.
> If you self-host in the cloud, you can use an encrypted volume if you
> like, but given that volume can boot without a passphrase, it doesn't
> provide *that* much security. A few people will use FUSE mounts for the
> likes of S3 or similar, then encrypt that data... it'd be at rest across
> a different system than the server itself, which is slightly better.
>
> Getting my pihole and wireguard setup this weekend, at least that's the
> plan.

A good way to store data safely in a Virtual Private Server is a FUSE
encryption layer such as Cryptomator. I am not a big fan of Cryptomator but the
concept is neat. Your file synchronization tool only sees encrypted files, and
your VPS only sees encrypted files. However, in your own computer you work with
unencrypted files in a transparent manner.

Much better than using a Veracrypt volume or similar solution, for file sync
tools at least.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Sunday 05.09.21 - 08:26, Arelor wrote to Tracker1:

>> On 7/20/2021 1:45 AM, Arelor wrote:
>>> My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.

[...]

A> Heh, you are necroing an old thread.

A message from July doesn't seem so bad. It's summertime and
people get occupied with things.

At what point in time is replying to a message considered a
necro event? And why does it seem to have a negative
connotation?

Heck, I have marked messages (intended for a reply) that are
dated much older than the one that you mention. :/

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Re: Heh, you are necroing an old thread
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Sep 05 2021 11:23 pm

> Hello Arelor!
>
> ** On Sunday 05.09.21 - 08:26, Arelor wrote to Tracker1:
>
> >> On 7/20/2021 1:45 AM, Arelor wrote:
> >>> My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
>
> [...]
>
> A> Heh, you are necroing an old thread.
>
> A message from July doesn't seem so bad. It's summertime and
> people get occupied with things.
>
> At what point in time is replying to a message considered a
> necro event? And why does it seem to have a negative
> connotation?
>
> Heck, I have marked messages (intended for a reply) that are
> dated much older than the one that you mention. :/

I have nothing against Necromancers. They give out a lot of XP when you defeat
them.

There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think
something is necro when it happens long after interest on the thread has waned.

I think nobody even remembered the Discord discussion, which for me scores as
necro. I bet Tracker1 lives in a dark tower of power and spends his time
reading black tomes while listening to The Spell and raising dead threads from
the grave.

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Re: Heh, you are necroing an old thread
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Sep 06 2021 06:23 am

>
> > Heck, I have marked messages (intended for a reply) that are
> > dated much older than the one that you mention. :/
>
> I have nothing against Necromancers. They give out a lot of XP when you
> defeat them.
>
> There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think

tracker is different in that he is just gone for long stretches. he's not a new guy who just didnt update his msg pointers.

so i'm not sure how to complain about him.
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Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to all on Sat Sep 04 2021 07:09 am

> man this dude is mentally ill.
>
> https://youtu.be/yfFjzvCdH90?t=10823

I want to run *his* software for my BBS!
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Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Sep 06 2021 01:25 pm

> Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
> By: MRO to all on Sat Sep 04 2021 07:09 am
>
> > man this dude is mentally ill.
>
> > https://youtu.be/yfFjzvCdH90?t=10823
>
> I want to run *his* software for my BBS!
> --
> digital man

i made the mistake of letting this run when i was cleaning my pet's cages and my fishtank.

he started getting really bad talking about this 18 year old woman he knocked up at 30, then showing his kid's pics and going on these rants about crazy shit. saying it's not his fault he can't keep a job or take care of his kids.

he said baby momma's last name was sanford. i wonder if that was eli's sister. it's hard to make it out.

i was like god damn dude. you should be on a government watch list.
he wasn't that bad before, he must be using crystal meth or huffing.

atleast he took down the confederate flag off the wall.
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Re: Heh, you are necroing an old thread
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Sep 06 2021 09:12 am

> Re: Heh, you are necroing an old thread
> By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Sep 06 2021 06:23 am
>
>
> > > Heck, I have marked messages (intended for a reply) that are
> > > dated much older than the one that you mention. :/
>
> > I have nothing against Necromancers. They give out a lot of XP when you
> > defeat them.
>
> > There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think
>
>
> tracker is different in that he is just gone for long stretches. he's not a
> new guy who just didnt update his msg pointers.
>
> so i'm not sure how to complain about him.

Hire a group of adventures (a fighter, a wizard, a rogue and a cleric are the
standard) to sneak into his necromantic tower and steal the Hand of Vecna from
his treasure chamber. That should be a good enough complaint for a Necromancer
:-)

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On 9/4/2021 1:37 PM, Nightfox wrote:
>> Yeah, apparently the feature will be post-release (October 5th)
>> though. I haven't seen/tried it on insiders though.
>
> I've seen Android emulators for Windows that let you run Android apps
> on Windows. So it's something that's out there already. It seems
> Microsoft wants it included with Windows.. I wonder if it will be
> more of a seamless feature being integrated into Windows.

Should be... rumor is it'll use Amazon's store instead of Google Play,
so very mixed bag, and no wonder it slipped.

>> Some Samsung (and other) phones actually have a hub/desktop mode
>> where you can use a usb3 dock and get a desktop experience, that
>> seems kind of cool too. Hadn't seen the mirroring.
>
> I had a Samsung S20 phone that did that, or at least something like
> that. I thought it was cool. It didn't need a dock - I could plug
> my phone into my PC with a USB3 cable, and the Samsung software would
> let me basically see my phone screen on my PC and interact with it
> from my PC that way.

That's kind of cool... what I'm talking about, no computer needed, the
phone *is* the computer. There's a win10/11 software MS has that can do
some stuff with my android phone... mostly use it to copy pictures off
of it.

Really wanting to switch back to Linux (PopOS), but also wanting to try
some AI up-scaling for video, that's limited to Windows. May have to
stick a second drive in again so I can dual-boot cleaner.
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On 9/4/2021 5:39 PM, Ogg wrote:
>> I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) ..
>> my messages in the group show up as bbsiochat, which is
>> kind of annoying.
>
> I don't see any messages posted by "bbsiochat" in there. There
> is an occassional post from someone using the id "Group"
> though. Is that you?

Probably... Not sure if/how I can change it tbh.

> You don't have to change numbers. Why not continue your account
> as @azTracker1 ?

Was able to recover it... my "number is banned" is the message I was
getting. Likely a filter that trapped all the service number blocks
(twilio, google voice, etc).

> In any case, the folks at Telegram are very helpful if you run
> into a ban situation and explain the circumstances. My number
> was banned at one point. My number is a standard number with my
> cellphone. By then, I had already installed Telegram on 3
> devices. I just wanted one more device. But as soon as I went
> to register/activate the installation, I got a "number is
> banned" message. :( But an email to Telegram Support sorted
> it all out within 12 hours.

Yeah, it was un-banned the next morning.
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On 9/5/2021 6:26 AM, Arelor wrote:
>
> So yes, it is awesome that you can afford to have 32 Gb of RAM on
> your weakest computer. But that is not an argument to make to a
> guy whose pro-computer fleet has no computer with more than 2.

I wasn't trying to be offensive... only mentioning that 16+ has been
widely available for a while, at least in the US. I'm often very
surprised when I see something with less than 8gb.

There's definitely some hard press to try to get something running that
low on resources with a modern desktop. There was some options in
Windows XP that let you use a fast USB or other drive as extension
memory. Not sure if you can still do that in Windows or Linux.
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On 9/6/2021 4:23 AM, Arelor wrote:
> I bet Tracker1 lives in a dark tower of power and spends his time
> reading black tomes while listening to The Spell and raising dead
> threads from the grave.

More that I work too much, and at the end of the day don't really check
on the BBS as often as I should... so weeks often go by between read
cycles for me.

After this week, I have two off, planning on spending at least half of
it working on the BBS.
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Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Tue Sep 21 2021 04:30 pm

Tr> Really wanting to switch back to Linux (PopOS), but also wanting to try
Tr> some AI up-scaling for video, that's limited to Windows. May have to
Tr> stick a second drive in again so I can dual-boot cleaner.

Is it Topaz Video Enhance AI by chance? I've been using that on and off since about April last year to do some video upscaling. I've considered switching to Linux for a long time but haven't due to software, and now Topaz Video Enhance AI is one reason why.

Nightfox

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