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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: All
Subject: dumbest ideas
Message-ID: <60856E12.4670.dove-int@capitolcityonline.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 02:25:00 -0400
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 by: Ogg - Sun, 25 Apr 2021 06:25 UTC

Hello All?

http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/

Don't bother going to the home domain. This guy might be a
security expert and milling enthusiast, but he's a lowsy/dumb
website designer.

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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Ogg
Subject: dumbest ideas
Message-ID: <6085DDE7.2650.dove-internet@palantirbbs.ddns.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:23:51 -0500
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 by: Arelor - Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:23 UTC

Re: dumbest ideas
By: Ogg to All on Sun Apr 25 2021 09:25 am

> Hello All?
>
> http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/
>
> Don't bother going to the home domain. This guy might be a
> security expert and milling enthusiast, but he's a lowsy/dumb
> website designer.

Actually, the site uses a captcha service that requires javascript to beat,
which means I am nto even bothering. Thanks for the warning though.

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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: Arelor
Subject: dumbest ideas
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:49:00 -0400
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 by: Ogg - Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:49 UTC

Hello Arelor!

** On Sunday 25.04.21 - 16:23, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

>> http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/
>>

A> Actually, the site uses a captcha service that requires javascript to
A> beat, which means I am nto even bothering. Thanks for the warning though.

But were you able to read the /dumb page? The material is
actually quite good.

It's the home page www.ranum.com that looks totally out of place
and is the one to avoid.

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Ogg
Subject: dumbest ideas
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 by: Arelor - Mon, 26 Apr 2021 02:50 UTC

Re: dumbest ideas
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Apr 25 2021 10:49 pm

> Hello Arelor!
>
> ** On Sunday 25.04.21 - 16:23, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
>
> >> http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/
> >>
>
> A> Actually, the site uses a captcha service that requires javascript to
> A> beat, which means I am nto even bothering. Thanks for the warning though
>
> But were you able to read the /dumb page? The material is
> actually quite good.
>
> It's the home page www.ranum.com that looks totally out of place
> and is the one to avoid.

The whole site is captcha blocked, included the /dumb folder. So no dice.

--
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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: Arelor
Subject: dumbest ideas
Message-ID: <6086C863.4676.dove-int@capitolcityonline.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 03:02:00 -0400
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 by: Ogg - Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:02 UTC

Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 26.04.21 - 04:50, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

>>>> http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/

>> A> Actually, the site uses a captcha service that requires javascript..

A> The whole site is captcha blocked, included the /dumb folder. So no dice.

Hmmm... I didn't have to enter a captcha. But I just have an
adblocker enabled. Maybe that did the trick?

I'll try to get the content out to you. It's a good read!

BTW.. Is your system with our original pgp credentials working
yet? It seems that you were able to decrypt the ProtonMail
version of my messages using your key.

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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: Arelor
Subject: dumbest ideas
Message-ID: <6086CBB7.4677.dove-int@capitolcityonline.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 03:18:00 -0400
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 by: Ogg - Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:18 UTC

Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 26.04.21 - 04:50, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

>> It's the home page www.ranum.com that looks totally out of place
>> and is the one to avoid.

A> The whole site is captcha blocked, included the /dumb folder. So no dice.

This copy:

http://kolico.ca/files/The-Six-Dumbest-Ideas-in-Computer-
Security.htm

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dumbest ideas

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To: Ogg
Subject: dumbest ideas
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 11:51:41 -0500
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 by: MRO - Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:51 UTC

Re: dumbest ideas
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Apr 26 2021 10:02 am

> Hello Arelor!
>
> ** On Monday 26.04.21 - 04:50, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
>
> >>>> http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/
>
> >> A> Actually, the site uses a captcha service that requires
>
> javascript..
>
> A> The whole site is captcha blocked, included the /dumb folder. So no
> A> dice.
>
>
> Hmmm... I didn't have to enter a captcha. But I just have an
> adblocker enabled. Maybe that did the trick?
>
> I'll try to get the content out to you. It's a good read!

i dont know why you even linked that dude's website. it's nothing remarkable.
i didnt get capcha though.

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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Ogg
Subject: dumbest ideas
Message-ID: <6089E750.2664.dove-internet@palantirbbs.ddns.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:53:04 -0500
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 by: Arelor - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:53 UTC

Re: dumbest ideas
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Apr 26 2021 10:02 am

> Hello Arelor!
>
> ** On Monday 26.04.21 - 04:50, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
>
> >>>> http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/
>
> >> A> Actually, the site uses a captcha service that requires javascript..
>
> A> The whole site is captcha blocked, included the /dumb folder. So no dice.
>
>
> Hmmm... I didn't have to enter a captcha. But I just have an
> adblocker enabled. Maybe that did the trick?
>
> I'll try to get the content out to you. It's a good read!
>
> BTW.. Is your system with our original pgp credentials working
> yet? It seems that you were able to decrypt the ProtonMail
> version of my messages using your key.

Yeah, my mailing system is in working order once again :-)

Taking it back was a bit of an adventure. It involved some computer suffering
spontaneous combustion and needed some spare parts.

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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Ogg
Subject: dumbest ideas
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 11:07:19 -0500
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 by: Arelor - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 16:07 UTC

Re: dumbest ideas
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Apr 26 2021 10:18 am

> Hello Arelor!
>
> ** On Monday 26.04.21 - 04:50, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
>
> >> It's the home page www.ranum.com that looks totally out of place
> >> and is the one to avoid.
>
> A> The whole site is captcha blocked, included the /dumb folder. So no dice.
>
>
> This copy:
>
> http://kolico.ca/files/The-Six-Dumbest-Ideas-in-Computer-
> Security.htm

Thank you very much.

Point 1 reminded me immediately of OpenBSD's pledge() and unveil() syscalls, which are
explicitly designed to prevent trustworthy programs from doing unexpected things.
Linux has been advancing in that field too with seccompand such, letting programs drop
privileges so they are less abusable.

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