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* Limiting the capacity of SD cards for the piBob Latham
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 by: Bob Latham - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 13:32 UTC

In article <5aed8f54a6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ufguj4$3hg5q$3@dont-email.me>,
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> > Bob: Did you do those as part of the installation?

> > sudo apt-get update
> > sudo apt-get upgrade -y

> I did but to be honest, I'm not sure when. It may have been when
> following the instructions in the command line link you gave me.

> permissions permisions, permissions.

WORKING !!!!!

Restarted all machines and it just worked. It even allowed me to
enable the evil and dangerous SMB1 so that I could get RISC OS to
connect and it did.

Thanks everyone.

Cheers,

Bob.

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From: dave@davehigton.me.uk (David Higton)
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 by: David Higton - Mon, 2 Oct 2023 21:27 UTC

In message <5aed2feb92bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> Bloody Linux.
>
> I installed an operating system that doesn't have working SMB as standard.

Linux does /have/ working SMB as standard, but it's not /installed/ as
standard. It's easy to install - both the client and the server. I
only have the client installed on my Ubuntu installation because I
don't need to share its drive. I've got shared NAS drives, which of
course are on a Linux machine (a Raspberry Pi - it's good enough for
my needs).

If you want to install the client or server, just follow instructions
from a good web site.

David

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 by: Bob Latham - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 15:21 UTC

In article <cb6a3aed5a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <5aed2feb92bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > Bloody Linux.
> >
> > I installed an operating system that doesn't have working SMB as
> > standard.

> Linux does /have/ working SMB as standard, but it's not /installed/
> as standard.

Hmmm. If it's not installed, it's not working in my book. It does
have potential to work.

> It's easy to install - both the client and the
> server.

It is falling off a log easy to install *IF* *IF* *IF* you know how!

> If you want to install the client or server, just follow
> instructions from a good web site.

Yes. When you find one.

Bob.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 16:15 UTC

On 03/10/2023 13:03, Bob Latham wrote:

>
> Permissions obviously but where??.
>
smb.conf

--
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

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 by: mm0fmf - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 16:40 UTC

On 03/10/2023 12:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 03/10/2023 10:42, Bob Latham wrote:
>> In article <ufgjvt$3fdl6$1@dont-email.me>,
>>     The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 03/10/2023 09:11, Bob Latham wrote:
>>
>>>> Does linux want to be main stream?

[A huge amount of painful deliberate cluelessness stripped]

I think Bob's trolling here is some of the best I've seen on Usenet in
2023. Blows R. Weiser straight out of the water.

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 by: Bob Latham - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 18:13 UTC

In article <ufhg55$3l3ec$1@dont-email.me>,
mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 03/10/2023 12:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> > On 03/10/2023 10:42, Bob Latham wrote:
> >> In article <ufgjvt$3fdl6$1@dont-email.me>,
> >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>> On 03/10/2023 09:11, Bob Latham wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Does linux want to be main stream?

> [A huge amount of painful deliberate cluelessness stripped]

> I think Bob's trolling here is some of the best I've seen on Usenet
> in 2023. Blows R. Weiser straight out of the water.

And everyone had been so helpful and friendly and they got me there
until...

Cheers,

Bob.

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 by: druck - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 20:02 UTC

On 03/10/2023 14:02, Bob Latham wrote:
> First off I didn't mean geek as an insult.
> Second I don't consider myself good enough to be a geek.

We'll get you there Bob!

---druck

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 by: Martin Gregorie - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 20:45 UTC

On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 17:15:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 03/10/2023 13:03, Bob Latham wrote:
>
>
>> Permissions obviously but where??.
>>
> smb.conf

On this laptop, running fedora Linux, its full pathname is:

/etc/samba/smb.conf

There's a local manual page for it: running "man samba" shows the main man
page, which lists a bunch of subpages, each dealing with some Samba
subsystem or function, and all are accessible via the 'man' command.

Alternatively, point your web browser at
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Main_Page

I'd suggest which way to go depends on your screen size: if its small then
working with two console windows (24x80 monochrome), one for editing files
etc and the other showing manpages is probably best, but if your screen is
big enough to have a console window AND a web browser page open together
without much overlap, then go for that.

--

Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

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 by: scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us - Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:04 UTC

Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <cb6a3aed5a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
> David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>> In message <5aed2feb92bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
>> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>> > I installed an operating system that doesn't have working SMB as
>> > standard.
>
>> Linux does /have/ working SMB as standard, but it's not /installed/
>> as standard.
>
> Hmmm. If it's not installed, it's not working in my book. It does
> have potential to work.

Not everybody needs it. Of all the Linux systems I run, I think only two of
them have Samba installed. Why should it be installed by default? That only
increases the attack surface; any unused-but-installed software is one
exploit away from getting your box pwned.

If you need it for whatever reason, you install it. If you don't, you
don't. It's no different than any other software you might use: webserver,
email server, etc.

--
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(IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
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 by: Bob Latham - Wed, 4 Oct 2023 19:09 UTC

In article <32gTM.5$w4ec.4@fx14.iad>,
<scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > Hmmm. If it's not installed, it's not working in my book. It does
> > have potential to work.

> Not everybody needs it.

True, probably.

> Of all the Linux systems I run, I think only two of them have Samba
> installed.

I have :

A Router, several Synology NAS boxes, Humax Freeview recorder, and
around 10 raspberry pi machines, all Linux and all have SMB server on
them.

One reason why is text editing for scripts etc. I have an editor that
I prefer to all others regardless of platform. This means that using
a built in editor like nano is only used once to sort smb.conf.

That editor is StrongED for RISCOS.

> Why should it be installed by default?

I take your point but..

As I've said before, when people come from Windows they expect
similar functionality. If there was a control panel switch to switch
it on then absolutely fine, leave it off as windows does for SMB1.

> That only increases the attack surface; any unused-but-installed
> software is one exploit away from getting your box pwned.

Where do you draw the line? You're not safe the moment you connect to
a network (SMB or not) especially a public network and as for using a
browser on the net, well that's asking for trouble.

> If you need it for whatever reason, you install it. If you don't,
> you don't.
True to an extent but certainly in the windows, world you don't need
to start googling for such packages and how to install them on day 1.

> It's no different than any other software you might
> use: webserver, email server, etc.

I note that you choose servers in your example. Yes it is SMB server
that I required and yes it does offer a server service in the
technical sense. But I don't consider it something that would
suggest the machine running it should be in a server room as you
might for web or mail servers.

It's all a question of what you're used to really.

Cheers,

Bob.

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scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us wrote:
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>>> > standard.
>>
>>> Linux does /have/ working SMB as standard, but it's not /installed/
>>> as standard.
>>
>> Hmmm. If it's not installed, it's not working in my book. It does
>> have potential to work.
>
> Not everybody needs it. Of all the Linux systems I run, I think only two of
> them have Samba installed. Why should it be installed by default?

I'd be happy if Windows came with NFS support installed by default.
:)

Instead I just use FTP for the rare times I still use Windows on my
home LAN. I could of course complain in a Windows group that it's
too hard to install NFS support so that it would work the same as
my Linux systems, but I don't.

--
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#_ < |\| |< _#

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Wed, 4 Oct 2023 20:38 UTC

On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 20:09:47 +0100
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> Where do you draw the line?

Personally I draw the line a lot tighter than most linux
distributions do.

I use FreeBSD which has a minimal command line based OS as the
core, largely defined by being self hosting and everything else (including
X11) is a ported third party application available (usually) as a binary
package or to build from source via the ports tree.

> You're not safe the moment you connect to
> a network (SMB or not) especially a public network

You're perfectly safe if nothing is listening or reaching out that
you don't directly control.

> and as for using a
> browser on the net, well that's asking for trouble.

Certainly not - after installing the iso the first step is to pull
any OS updates (freebsd-update) and apply them before installing whatever
packages (pkg add) I might need on the box. All with simple command line
tools - I expect to have everything set up before I launch any kind of GUI
and that only happens on workstations most of my systems run headless and
don't have browsers (or anything else not needed) installed.

I am not a typical user.

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 by: Martin Gregorie - Wed, 4 Oct 2023 22:28 UTC

On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 21:38:28 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 20:09:47 +0100 Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> wrote:
>> You're not safe the moment you connect to a network (SMB or not)
>> especially a public network
>
> You're perfectly safe if nothing is listening or reaching out that
> you don't directly control.
>
You're also fairly safe if you've configured your LAN gateway
appropriately, To me this means that you have *NO* ports in it that that
accept incoming connection requests. This is the case for most services:

- FTP requests for external documents are outbound requests, so are
Linux software update requests

- so are web content requests and search requests sent to search
engines, unless you're hosting a website on your LAN. But IMO thats
just stupid: by all means keep the master website copy on your LAN,
but pay your ISP a small amount to host the public copy and use FTP
or rsync (both controlled locally) to keep it in sync with your locally
hosted master copy.

- Mail can be worked the same way: allow incoming mail to collect in a
mailbox on your ISP's system, and every 10 minutes or so, run getmail
or fetchmail to collect incoming mail from your ISP's system and pass
it to a local mail server: Postfix is really easy to configure and use,
and something like Evolution is an excellent mail reader/writer.
Outbound mail can either be sent directly to your outbox in your ISP's
server or (better IMO), sent to your local mailserver for delivery to
your outbox on your ISP's server.

Almost any other requirement that involves moving data between the
internet at large and systems on your local LAN can be handled safely by
using a variant of one of the above schemes.

>> and as for using a browser on the net, well that's asking for trouble.

Not if you configure it properly, are using a browser like Firefox or
Brave and have a copy of Lynx on hand for carefully examining possibly
dodgy websites. I personally won't touch Chrome and its derivations, but
YMMV.

--

Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Wed, 4 Oct 2023 23:05 UTC

On 04/10/2023 20:09, Bob Latham wrote:
> As I've said before, when people come from Windows they expect
> similar functionality. If there was a control panel switch to switch
> it on then absolutely fine, leave it off as windows does for SMB1.

If you go to main menu->software manager->Internet there is a 'switch to
switch it on'
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 by: Bob Latham - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 07:33 UTC

In article <651dc724@news.ausics.net>,
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

> I'd be happy if Windows came with NFS support installed by default.
> :)

So would I as it happens. A long story as to why but I do use both
SMB and NFS (at the same time) to access my music library for admin
purposes. I've not managed to get NFS working well on Windows.

> I could of course complain in a Windows group that it's too hard to
> install NFS support so that it would work the same as my Linux
> systems,

And you'd be correct and I would support you.

> but I don't.

Ouch !!

Bob.

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 by: Bob Latham - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 08:23 UTC

In article <ufkr34$i857$1@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 04/10/2023 20:09, Bob Latham wrote:

> > As I've said before, when people come from Windows they expect
> > similar functionality. If there was a control panel switch to
> > switch it on then absolutely fine, leave it off as windows does
> > for SMB1.

> If you go to main menu->software manager->Internet there is a
> 'switch to switch it on'

Just had a look at that and I can't deny what you say, it is there.
Thank you for pointing it out.

Obviously, I didn't see it before and I don't recall any web site or
previous message post indicating it's existence. I suppose my google
efforts only finding command line install commands led me away from
that possibility. I'm *slightly* at odds with putting it under
"internet" as the last thing you want to do is combine those two
things but perhaps that's nit picking.

Out of interest, not having a pop or anything. I discovered that the
samba install I used did not provide a share option in the folder
menus, so I suppose users are intended to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
themselves by hand.

I've since discovered and installed via command line caja-share samba
which does add the option to the menus. I've not tried it yet but I
presume it edits smb.conf for you.

For future reference, I don't suppose "the switch" in software
manager adds caja-share does it?

Your message from early this morning had a profound tag message at
the bottom. Both insightful and very true. I've made a note of it.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Bob.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 08:49 UTC

On 05/10/2023 09:23, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <ufkr34$i857$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 04/10/2023 20:09, Bob Latham wrote:
>
>>> As I've said before, when people come from Windows they expect
>>> similar functionality. If there was a control panel switch to
>>> switch it on then absolutely fine, leave it off as windows does
>>> for SMB1.
>
>> If you go to main menu->software manager->Internet there is a
>> 'switch to switch it on'
>
> Just had a look at that and I can't deny what you say, it is there.
> Thank you for pointing it out.
>
As I said before, the underlying philosophy is utterly different on
Linux. Windows will bundle and *inatall* everything and provide a numpty
way to switch it on (or fuck it up completely)

Linux has a *huge* repository of software you *might* want to use but
its simply too big to install it all - e.g. I have a Gerber file viewer
installed. I bet you don't even know what its for, let alone have it
installed.

Likewise as regular lurkers know I have a full cross compile setup for
Pi Picos.

There is a point where 'doing it like windows' simply becomes impossible.
Debian (on which Mint is ultimately based)made a decisions years ago to
develop the idea of a respository of precompiled software with
installations scripts, like the google play or apple pay and play or
whatever its called.

> Obviously, I didn't see it before and I don't recall any web site or
> previous message post indicating it's existence.

That part of Mint is quite recent and particular to Mint, and rather
recondite.
The ideas was to group all the available downloadable applications and
libraries and provide a much more structured interface than synaptic.

It is very much a work in progress.

I suppose my google
> efforts only finding command line install commands led me away from
> that possibility. I'm *slightly* at odds with putting it under
> "internet" as the last thing you want to do is combine those two
> things but perhaps that's nit picking.
>
I totally agree. It should be under 'networking'

> Out of interest, not having a pop or anything. I discovered that the
> samba install I used did not provide a share option in the folder
> menus, so I suppose users are intended to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
> themselves by hand.
>
TBH I am not sure.

system-config-samba is mentioned on the web as being the GUI tool to
manage samba but I have never used it

> I've since discovered and installed via command line caja-share samba
> which does add the option to the menus. I've not tried it yet but I
> presume it edits smb.conf for you.
>
Almost certainly. nearly all pretty faced GUIs merely edit underlying
config files and restart the associated daemon

> For future reference, I don't suppose "the switch" in software
> manager adds caja-share does it?
>
No idea.

--
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name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

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 by: Chris Elvidge - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 10:09 UTC

On 05/10/2023 08:33, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <651dc724@news.ausics.net>,
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I'd be happy if Windows came with NFS support installed by default.
>> :)
>
> So would I as it happens. A long story as to why but I do use both
> SMB and NFS (at the same time) to access my music library for admin
> purposes. I've not managed to get NFS working well on Windows.
>
>> I could of course complain in a Windows group that it's too hard to
>> install NFS support so that it would work the same as my Linux
>> systems,
>
> And you'd be correct and I would support you.
>
>> but I don't.
>
> Ouch !!
>
>
> Bob.
>

Why don't you use ssh to connect? public key infrastructure, no passwords.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse?tabs=gui
Linux tends to have it installed by default.

PS Did you ever manage to shrink your SD card?

--
Chris Elvidge, England
THE CAFETERIA DEEP FRYER IS NOT A TOY

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 by: Bob Latham - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 10:20 UTC

In article <ufm204$t27t$1@dont-email.me>,
Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:

> Why don't you use ssh to connect? public key infrastructure, no
> passwords.

> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse?tabs=gui

Correct me if I'm wrong. I use samba a lot to look at scripts, and
text files and the tags inside flac music files. These can be edited
on another platform and returned and all using a gui not command
line. I don't think you can do that with SSH can you?

> Linux tends to have it installed by default.

It does yes.

> PS Did you ever manage to shrink your SD card?

Yes and no. Yes, I've shrunken it a bit but not to the degree it
should be possible, ie. partitions a little larger than the file
storage and no unallocated space. And it gave me strange sizes I
didn't understand. Still looking at it and now I have a laptop
running mint.

Bob.

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 by: Chris Elvidge - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:34 UTC

On 05/10/2023 11:20, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <ufm204$t27t$1@dont-email.me>,
> Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
>
>> Why don't you use ssh to connect? public key infrastructure, no
>> passwords.
>
>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse?tabs=gui
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong. I use samba a lot to look at scripts, and
> text files and the tags inside flac music files. These can be edited
> on another platform and returned and all using a gui not command
> line. I don't think you can do that with SSH can you?
>

You can if you also install sshfs. Uses ssh as the connection protocol.
E.g. I have a line in (slackware) /etc/fstab:

celvi@10.0.2.3:/Users/celvi /media/celvi fuse.sshfs
PasswordAuthentication=no,comment=sshfs,transform_symlinks,users,noexec,auto,allow_other,_netdev,delay_connect,identityfile=/home/chris/.ssh/id_rsa,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0077
0 0

which connects to local windows box (at 10.0.2.3)
I can double-click the icon on the desktop to open the window on the
object directory. Changing a file here changes it on the host. Why would
you think that samba and ssh are different in that respect? It will also
be the same with NFS. All samba/sshfs/nfs do is make a remote directory
appear as a local directory.

>> Linux tends to have it installed by default.
>
> It does yes.
>
>> PS Did you ever manage to shrink your SD card?
>
> Yes and no. Yes, I've shrunken it a bit but not to the degree it
> should be possible, ie. partitions a little larger than the file
> storage and no unallocated space. And it gave me strange sizes I
> didn't understand. Still looking at it and now I have a laptop
> running mint.
>
> Bob.
>

Take your SD card and plug it into the mint laptop. Use gparted (gui
version of parted = partition editor) to investigate/shrink. Easy!

--
Chris Elvidge, England
I WAS NOT TOUCHED "THERE" BY AN ANGEL

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 by: Bob Latham - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:10 UTC

In article <ufm6vg$u06b$1@dont-email.me>,
Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
> On 05/10/2023 11:20, Bob Latham wrote:
> > In article <ufm204$t27t$1@dont-email.me>,
> > Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Why don't you use ssh to connect? public key infrastructure, no
> >> passwords.
> >
> >> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse?tabs=gui
> >
> > Correct me if I'm wrong. I use samba a lot to look at scripts,
> > and text files and the tags inside flac music files. These can be
> > edited on another platform and returned and all using a gui not
> > command line. I don't think you can do that with SSH can you?
> >

> You can if you also install sshfs. Uses ssh as the connection
> protocol. E.g. I have a line in (slackware) /etc/fstab:

> celvi@10.0.2.3:/Users/celvi /media/celvi fuse.sshfs
> PasswordAuthentication=no,comment=sshfs,transform_symlinks,users,noexec,auto,allow_other,_netdev,delay_connect,identityfile=/home/chris/.ssh/id_rsa,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0077
> 0 0

> which connects to local windows box (at 10.0.2.3) I can
> double-click the icon on the desktop to open the window on the
> object directory. Changing a file here changes it on the host.

I'll read up about that, thanks.

> Why would you think that samba and ssh are different in that
> respect?

Only my experiences or lack there of. I thought SSH was a command
line thing.

Also, I should admit that my preferred platform of choice doesn't
even have a fully working ssh client. The one it does have isn't good
enough to handle sudo raspi-config output.

> It will also be the same with NFS.

Ah yes, I do have an ssh client and I use it. However, I do find NFS
useful but an odd system that I don't really understand if I'm honest.

> All samba/sshfs/nfs do is make a remote directory appear as a local
> directory.

I knew samba/nfs I didn't know about sshfs probably because I very,
very much doubt we have a client for it.

> Take your SD card and plug it into the mint laptop. Use gparted
> (gui version of parted = partition editor) to investigate/shrink.
> Easy!

Thanks. I'm going to have a go at that ASAP.

Cheers,

Bob.

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 by: David Higton - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:19 UTC

In message <5aee79993ebob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> I've not managed to get NFS working well on Windows.

That's PC compatibility for you.

David

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 14:13 UTC

On Thu, 05 Oct 2023 11:20:27 +0100
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> Correct me if I'm wrong. I use samba a lot to look at scripts, and
> text files and the tags inside flac music files. These can be edited
> on another platform and returned and all using a gui not command
> line. I don't think you can do that with SSH can you?

There is sshfs but it is way less efficient than SMB or NFS.

--
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 15:08 UTC

On 05/10/2023 11:20, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <ufm204$t27t$1@dont-email.me>,
> Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
>
>> Why don't you use ssh to connect? public key infrastructure, no
>> passwords.
>
>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse?tabs=gui
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong. I use samba a lot to look at scripts, and
> text files and the tags inside flac music files. These can be edited
> on another platform and returned and all using a gui not command
> line. I don't think you can do that with SSH can you?
>
You can. there is a file transfer protocol built over ssh. Microsoft
supports it.
I had forgotten that.

>> Linux tends to have it installed by default.
>
> It does yes.
>
>> PS Did you ever manage to shrink your SD card?
>
> Yes and no. Yes, I've shrunken it a bit but not to the degree it
> should be possible, ie. partitions a little larger than the file
> storage and no unallocated space. And it gave me strange sizes I
> didn't understand. Still looking at it and now I have a laptop
> running mint.
>
> Bob.
>

--
The higher up the mountainside
The greener grows the grass.
The higher up the monkey climbs
The more he shows his arse.

Traditional

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 15:09 UTC

On 05/10/2023 14:19, David Higton wrote:
> In message <5aee79993ebob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I've not managed to get NFS working well on Windows.
>
Back in the day Sun's PC-NFS made me an awful lot of money as a product :-)

> That's PC compatibility for you.
>
> David

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