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|`* Re: OT Win11 OTRene Lamontagne
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| |`* Re: OT Win11 OTRabidHussar
| | `* Re: OT Win11 OTJonathan N. Little
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| `- Re: OT Win11 OTPeter Johnson
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+* Re: OT Win11 OTAndy Burns
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From: lws4art@gmail.com (Jonathan N. Little)
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Subject: Re: OT Win11 OT
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 11:48:22 -0400
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 by: Jonathan N. Little - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 15:48 UTC

philo wrote:
> I am pretty much stuck with Windows in order to use my scanner and my
> professional quality photo scanner.
>
> The best scanner software for Linux is View Scan which (ironically for
> Linux) is not free.
>
> Not only do I scan slides 35mm & medium format... I OCR text...and
> bundled with my scanner is great OCR software.
>
> I tend to use Linux mainly for going on-line. In particular...banking.

If is recall you had a Canon scanner? Canon is one of the worst mfgr for
Linux support. I dumped my Canon and got an Epson Perfection V600 Photo
and is works better than my Canon 4200F anyway and working in both
Windows and Linux

But for previous poster for HP products, the hplip Toobox is the way to go.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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 by: Jonathan N. Little - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 15:57 UTC

RabidHussar wrote:
>
> Oh, I know how to install it. However, the process is cumbersome even
> when you follow the steps they give you because they often don't take
> administrative rights into consideration. A person who understands how
> they work like myself will figure the issue out but people who don't
> even know what "administrative rights" means would be better off simply
> using it in Windows.
l Well for someone in Linux must have access to admin rights or some admin
give specific rights for some process to install anything on Linux. That
is a "Good Think" ™. For the latest hplip Toolbox script to run call,
must be call by someone in sudo|adm group. You run the script without
sudo, but supply password as the prompt. backing keep hitting RETURN for
default "y" works for most applications...not that difficult.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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From: Bears@invalid.com (Big Al)
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 by: Big Al - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 21:07 UTC

On 9/4/21 10:18 PM, this is what RabidHussar wrote:
> On 2021-09-04 9:10 p.m., Big Al wrote:
>> On 9/4/21 8:22 PM, this is what philo wrote:
>>> On 9/4/21 6:33 PM, Paul wrote:
>>>> philo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am getting used to it. but it's a downgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am so puzzled that it works the old way ONLY when I am working with files on my Android.
>>>>
>>>> It's part W11 and part W10. If a part isn't finished, you
>>>> get the W10 version working for you.
>>>>
>>>>     Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the Win10 version better
>> +1  I'm usually for the next gen but I'm kinda off this version.
>>
>> However when 8.1 came out I hated it!!!!!!   But after a few years it was great. (or better)
>
> I guess I must be in the minority because I rather liked Windows 8.1. 8 was a bit annoying, especially since there was no Start button and a
> user wouldn't immediately know that bringing the cursor to the bottom-left has the same effect but 8.1 was a good albeit necessary
> improvement. The performance was on par with 7 and it wasn't counter-intuitive or unappealing. It was, however, half-assed in some respects
> since it retained the Control Panel while introducing the settings system Windows 10 would go on to use by default.
>
>
Sorry, typo. I hated 8.0 when it came out. I got a pre-release version (so there may have been tons of bugs) but with that horrible push
button menu it was horrible. But as said, after a while and 8.1 came out and 3rd party menus etc 8.1 was good. I use it for a lot and
enjoyed getting away from win 7. It also paved the way for going to windows 10 which IMHO wasn't that far off.

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Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.2 64bit, Dell Inspiron 5570 laptop
Quad Core i7-8550U, 16G Memory, 512G SSD, 750G & 1TB HDDs

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 by: T - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 04:21 UTC

On 9/4/21 2:53 PM, philo wrote:
> So far Win11 has been ok except for the new File Explorer.   Win10 had a
> great one but Win11 is bad news. Just for example, cut and paste are not
> on the context menu unless one take the extra step of seeing more
> options. This would be a major PITA for those processing many files on
> at a time.
>
> Ever single tutorial out there as how to modify the behavior to make it
> similar to Win10 does not work.
> This is a horribly inefficient move although keyboard shortcuts still
> work ok.
>
>
> Here is the weird thing though.
> I was copying data off my Android and using Windows File Explorer...the
> context menu is the old Win10 context menu. The behavior I like works
> fine but only on the Android.
>
> I am very curious why this happens.

Hi Philo,

I did a wipe and rebuild and now I am seeing the same
thing you are seeing. Wow, what a pain in the a--!

-T

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 by: philo - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 05:57 UTC

Hope everyone who hates it files a report with MS in their feedback hub

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 by: T - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:34 UTC

On 9/5/21 10:57 PM, philo wrote:
> Hope everyone who hates it files a report with MS in their feedback hub

I think they got it backwards. The two menus
need to be swapped

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 by: philo - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 16:41 UTC

On 9/6/21 4:34 AM, T wrote:
> On 9/5/21 10:57 PM, philo wrote:
>> Hope everyone who hates it files a report with MS in their feedback hub
>
> I think they got it backwards.  The two menus
> need to be swapped

Exactly!

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