On 8/29/21 3:08 PM, philo wrote:
> On 8/29/2021 5:05 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/29/21 3:02 PM, philo wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Latest thing.
>>> I could not even copy a file to the root directory.
>>>
>>> Deleted the drive and recreated in all of ten seconds.
>>>
>>> Now restoring data.
>>
>> Windows does that.  Impressive workaround.
>
>
>
> What's weird is that on my wife's machine, the backup drive from her old
> machine behaved a bit better

It can be a pain in the ass to restore data
to a Windows machine at times.

When I restore data back to a previously infected
Windows machine, I always use Linux. That way if
I missed the virus, it does not have a chance to
infect the backup. And it is just so much easier
to do that way!

On 8/29/2021 5:14 PM, T wrote:
> On 8/29/21 3:08 PM, philo wrote:
>> On 8/29/2021 5:05 PM, T wrote:
>>> On 8/29/21 3:02 PM, philo wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Latest thing.
>>>> I could not even copy a file to the root directory.
>>>>
>>>> Deleted the drive and recreated in all of ten seconds.
>>>>
>>>> Now restoring data.
>>>
>>> Windows does that.  Impressive workaround.
>>
>>
>>
>> What's weird is that on my wife's machine, the backup drive from her
>> old machine behaved a bit better
>
> It can be a pain in the ass to restore data
> to a Windows machine at times.
>
> When I restore data back to a previously infected
> Windows machine, I always use Linux.  That way if
> I missed the virus, it does not have a chance to
> infect the backup.  And it is just so much easier
> to do that way!
>

Will copy to ext4 next time I think

On 8/29/21 3:10 PM, philo wrote:
> I am going to have to learn smartphone repair.

Sometimes when I am at a customer site working on
a real computer, I get asked for help on their
smart phones. I usually succeed, but it drives
me crazy working on them. "Okay, where'd they
put the 'settings' icon THIS WEEK".

Be careful, when it come to smart phones, everyone
wants maintenance FOR FREE. Same with Web
Developers.

On 8/29/21 3:16 PM, philo wrote:
> On 8/29/2021 5:14 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/29/21 3:08 PM, philo wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2021 5:05 PM, T wrote:
>>>> On 8/29/21 3:02 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Latest thing.
>>>>> I could not even copy a file to the root directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deleted the drive and recreated in all of ten seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now restoring data.
>>>>
>>>> Windows does that.  Impressive workaround.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What's weird is that on my wife's machine, the backup drive from her
>>> old machine behaved a bit better
>>
>> It can be a pain in the ass to restore data
>> to a Windows machine at times.
>>
>> When I restore data back to a previously infected
>> Windows machine, I always use Linux.  That way if
>> I missed the virus, it does not have a chance to
>> infect the backup.  And it is just so much easier
>> to do that way!
>>
>
>
> Will copy to ext4 next time I think

That will blow the ransomware ass hole's minds!

In article <sgh112$tn9$2@dont-email.me>, <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Be careful, when it come to smart phones, everyone
> wants maintenance FOR FREE.

there isn't much to maintain on a smartphone.

On 8/29/2021 5:17 PM, T wrote:
> On 8/29/21 3:10 PM, philo wrote:
>> I am going to have to learn smartphone repair.
>
> Sometimes when I am at a customer site working on
> a real computer, I get asked for help on their
> smart phones.  I usually succeed, but it drives
> me crazy working on them.  "Okay, where'd they
> put the 'settings' icon THIS WEEK".
>
> Be careful, when it come to smart phones, everyone
> wants maintenance FOR FREE.  Same with Web
> Developers.
>

I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old grandson
can navigate 20x faster than I can.

FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.

It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my bench at
the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...

but here is a good one:

I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!

On 8/29/21 3:28 PM, philo wrote:
>
> I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old grandson
> can navigate 20x faster than I can.
>
> FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.
>
>
> It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my bench at
> the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...
>
> but here is a good one:
>
> I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!
>

The way I got into computers was as Radio Design (RF)
engineer. Most of the designs were on thin film, so
I had to computer model everything: you can't tweak
a microcircuit. I was really good at it. But to do
so, I had to maintain the computers. Then the Cold
War ended and so did my job. So I because a computer
consultant.

And you can do some awesome stuff with tubes and
radios, especially transmitters.

If you ever get a chance to listen to a tube stereo,
it will blow you away. It is like being in the
auditorium with the performer.

On 30/08/2021 00.00, T wrote:
> On 8/29/21 11:00 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 29/08/2021 18.46, Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 13:58:25 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/08/2021 06.26, T wrote:
>>>>> On 8/28/21 5:25 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 29/08/2021 00.08, T wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Be REAL CAREFUL if you do the following.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To complete blank an entire drive and erase everything,
>>>>>>> from a Linux Live USB, I use
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       # dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero /dev/sdxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where xx is the drive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use gparted to identify sdxx.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> faster:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lsblk --output
>>>>>> NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL,ALIGNMENT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend gparted for others as it is accurate and simple.
>>>>
>>>> The above is very accurate and simple :-)
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I don't remember the concoction, I simply paste from my file
>>>> of recipes.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What I do personally is
>>>>>
>>>>>     $ drive unplugged
>>>>>     $ ls -al /dev/sd*
>>>>>     $ drive inserted
>>>>>     $ ls -al /dev/sd*
>>>>>
>>>>> Then identify the new guy
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> just try my line, you will see all the information it gives. I can not
>>>> paste here an example, because of line wrap.
>
> $ lsblk --output
> lsblk: option '--output' requires an argument
> Try 'lsblk --help' for more information.
>
> Hmmmmm....

You forgot the rest of the line:

lsblk --output \
NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL,ALIGNMENT

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 8/29/21 4:03 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 30/08/2021 00.00, T wrote:
>> On 8/29/21 11:00 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2021 18.46, Char Jackson wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 13:58:25 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/08/2021 06.26, T wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/28/21 5:25 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>> On 29/08/2021 00.08, T wrote:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Be REAL CAREFUL if you do the following.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To complete blank an entire drive and erase everything,
>>>>>>>> from a Linux Live USB, I use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       # dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero /dev/sdxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> where xx is the drive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use gparted to identify sdxx.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> faster:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lsblk --output
>>>>>>> NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL,ALIGNMENT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recommend gparted for others as it is accurate and simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> The above is very accurate and simple :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously I don't remember the concoction, I simply paste from my file
>>>>> of recipes.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I do personally is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     $ drive unplugged
>>>>>>     $ ls -al /dev/sd*
>>>>>>     $ drive inserted
>>>>>>     $ ls -al /dev/sd*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then identify the new guy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> just try my line, you will see all the information it gives. I can not
>>>>> paste here an example, because of line wrap.
>>
>> $ lsblk --output
>> lsblk: option '--output' requires an argument
>> Try 'lsblk --help' for more information.
>>
>> Hmmmmm....
>
> You forgot the rest of the line:
>
> lsblk --output \
> NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL,ALIGNMENT

I thought you were showing me the results.

$ lsblk --output
NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL,ALIGNMENT
NAME KNAME RA RM RO SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL MOUNTPOINT UUID
PARTUUID
WWN MODEL ALIGNMENT
sda sda 128 0 0 1.8T disk
0x5000039ffacd0397 TOSHI 0
└─sda1
sda1 128 0 0 1.8T part crypto
d349a38e-0e02-4c82-9c5e-e324d7e6b9d8
ad0babf7-062a-4712-b94d-3296b5170165 0x5000039ffacd0397 0
sr0 sr0 128 1 0 1024M rom
ATAPI 0
zram0
zram0 128 0 0 8G disk [SWAP]
0
nvme0n1
│ nvme0n1
│ 128 0 0 931.5G disk
eui.0025385a71b0705a Samsu 0
├─nvme0n1p1
│ nvme0n1p1
│ 128 0 0 200M part vfat EFI System Partition
│ /boot/efi
3E81-B783
6e58cd53-8fbd-4b97-bce2-fa7c43e105f3 eui.0025385a71b0705a 0
├─nvme0n1p2
│ nvme0n1p2
│ 128 0 0 1G part ext4 /boot
f3edab67-2614-4c23-a4d1-fc78b37d74f3
d1265722-8b50-483d-9689-4e18ea93cd1c eui.0025385a71b0705a 0
├─nvme0n1p3
│ nvme0n1p3
│ 128 0 0 7.8G part crypto
c72067fc-1742-4628-affc-f80b14974beb
1ad3b5ff-23a8-4a2e-87b6-1bb251ec7499 eui.0025385a71b0705a 0
│ └─luks-c72067fc-1742-4628-affc-f80b14974beb
│ dm-0 128 0 0 7.8G crypt swap [SWAP]
f5c30218-147c-4333-b541-396a54294340
0
└─nvme0n1p4
nvme0n1p4
128 0 0 922.5G part crypto
903bc691-a0f0-42bc-aa96-4233a7edc0e9
970bd730-9bc5-4435-9521-e552ab93c36e eui.0025385a71b0705a 0
└─luks-903bc691-a0f0-42bc-aa96-4233a7edc0e9
dm-1 128 0 0 922.5G crypt ext4 /
d2d22e5a-2425-4cd2-89e8-e7ebafc40638
0

Beautiful, but I won't remember it.

:'(

-T

On 8/29/2021 6:02 PM, T wrote:
> On 8/29/21 3:28 PM, philo wrote:
>>
>> I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old
>> grandson can navigate 20x faster than I can.
>>
>> FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.
>>
>>
>> It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my bench
>> at
>> the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...
>>
>> but here is a good one:
>>
>> I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!
>>
>
> The way I got into computers was as Radio Design (RF)
> engineer.  Most of the designs were on thin film, so
> I had to computer model everything: you can't tweak
> a microcircuit.  I was really good at it.  But to do
> so, I had to maintain the computers.  Then the Cold
> War ended and so did my job.  So I because a computer
> consultant.
>
> And you can do some awesome stuff with tubes and
> radios, especially transmitters.
>
> If you ever get a chance to listen to a tube stereo,
> it will blow you away.  It is like being in the
> auditorium with the performer.
>

Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...

On 8/29/21 4:46 PM, philo wrote:
> On 8/29/2021 6:02 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/29/21 3:28 PM, philo wrote:
>>>
>>> I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old
>>> grandson can navigate 20x faster than I can.
>>>
>>> FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my bench
>>> at
>>> the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...
>>>
>>>
>>> but here is a good one:
>>>
>>> I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!
>>>
>>
>> The way I got into computers was as Radio Design (RF)
>> engineer.  Most of the designs were on thin film, so
>> I had to computer model everything: you can't tweak
>> a microcircuit.  I was really good at it.  But to do
>> so, I had to maintain the computers.  Then the Cold
>> War ended and so did my job.  So I because a computer
>> consultant.
>>
>> And you can do some awesome stuff with tubes and
>> radios, especially transmitters.
>>
>> If you ever get a chance to listen to a tube stereo,
>> it will blow you away.  It is like being in the
>> auditorium with the performer.
>>
>
>
> Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...

I started with stereos and (tube) TV's. I was real
little when I first bugged our living room.

On 8/29/2021 6:58 PM, T wrote:
> On 8/29/21 4:46 PM, philo wrote:
>> On 8/29/2021 6:02 PM, T wrote:
>>> On 8/29/21 3:28 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old
>>>> grandson can navigate 20x faster than I can.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my
>>>> bench at
>>>> the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but here is a good one:
>>>>
>>>> I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!
>>>>
>>>
>>> The way I got into computers was as Radio Design (RF)
>>> engineer.  Most of the designs were on thin film, so
>>> I had to computer model everything: you can't tweak
>>> a microcircuit.  I was really good at it.  But to do
>>> so, I had to maintain the computers.  Then the Cold
>>> War ended and so did my job.  So I because a computer
>>> consultant.
>>>
>>> And you can do some awesome stuff with tubes and
>>> radios, especially transmitters.
>>>
>>> If you ever get a chance to listen to a tube stereo,
>>> it will blow you away.  It is like being in the
>>> auditorium with the performer.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...
>
> I started with stereos and (tube) TV's.  I was real
> little when I first bugged our living room.
>

Yeah. A friend of mine bugged the room his parents used when discussing
his allowance. I was not quite than sneaky.

On 8/29/21 5:07 PM, philo wrote:
> On 8/29/2021 6:58 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/29/21 4:46 PM, philo wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2021 6:02 PM, T wrote:
>>>> On 8/29/21 3:28 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old
>>>>> grandson can navigate 20x faster than I can.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my
>>>>> bench at
>>>>> the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> but here is a good one:
>>>>>
>>>>> I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The way I got into computers was as Radio Design (RF)
>>>> engineer.  Most of the designs were on thin film, so
>>>> I had to computer model everything: you can't tweak
>>>> a microcircuit.  I was really good at it.  But to do
>>>> so, I had to maintain the computers.  Then the Cold
>>>> War ended and so did my job.  So I because a computer
>>>> consultant.
>>>>
>>>> And you can do some awesome stuff with tubes and
>>>> radios, especially transmitters.
>>>>
>>>> If you ever get a chance to listen to a tube stereo,
>>>> it will blow you away.  It is like being in the
>>>> auditorium with the performer.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...
>>
>> I started with stereos and (tube) TV's.  I was real
>> little when I first bugged our living room.
>>
>
>
> Yeah. A friend of mine bugged the room his parents used when discussing
> his allowance. I was not quite than sneaky.

You'd be amazed how much smack your parents say about
you behind your back!

Whenever my parents got on the phone, I could
tell that the adult at the other end was saying
what a nice young man I was. The tip off was
my mother saying "Who?" over and over. She had
a tiny point.

Never figured out how to bug the phone. I had
one of those suction cup mikes for the side of
the phone to record the conversation. Didn't
work for s---.

On 8/29/2021 7:16 PM, T wrote:
> On 8/29/21 5:07 PM, philo wrote:
>> On 8/29/2021 6:58 PM, T wrote:
>>> On 8/29/21 4:46 PM, philo wrote:
>>>> On 8/29/2021 6:02 PM, T wrote:
>>>>> On 8/29/21 3:28 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old
>>>>>> grandson can navigate 20x faster than I can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my
>>>>>> bench at
>>>>>> the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but here is a good one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The way I got into computers was as Radio Design (RF)
>>>>> engineer.  Most of the designs were on thin film, so
>>>>> I had to computer model everything: you can't tweak
>>>>> a microcircuit.  I was really good at it.  But to do
>>>>> so, I had to maintain the computers.  Then the Cold
>>>>> War ended and so did my job.  So I because a computer
>>>>> consultant.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you can do some awesome stuff with tubes and
>>>>> radios, especially transmitters.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ever get a chance to listen to a tube stereo,
>>>>> it will blow you away.  It is like being in the
>>>>> auditorium with the performer.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...
>>>
>>> I started with stereos and (tube) TV's.  I was real
>>> little when I first bugged our living room.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah. A friend of mine bugged the room his parents used when
>> discussing his allowance. I was not quite than sneaky.
>
> You'd be amazed how much smack your parents say about
> you behind your back!
>
> Whenever my parents got on the phone, I could
> tell that the adult at the other end was saying
> what a nice young man I was.  The tip off was
> my mother saying "Who?" over and over.  She had
> a tiny point.
>
> Never figured out how to bug the phone.   I had
> one of those suction cup mikes for the side of
> the phone to record the conversation.  Didn't
> work for s---.
>

I still recall the time I stayed overnight at my grandmother's house and
there was an extension phone in my room. When I carefully and quietly
picked it up to listen in, my grandmother periodically told me to hang
it up. I was being extra quiet and never knew how she knew until years
later when I thought about it: I had the TV on !

Some spy I'd be.

On 8/29/21 5:33 PM, philo wrote:
> On 8/29/2021 7:16 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/29/21 5:07 PM, philo wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2021 6:58 PM, T wrote:
>>>> On 8/29/21 4:46 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>> On 8/29/2021 6:02 PM, T wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/29/21 3:28 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I probably am too old to deal with smartphones. My six year old
>>>>>>> grandson can navigate 20x faster than I can.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW: My vacuum tube radio repairs have increased. I am not joking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's really funny when I have a tube radio and a computer on my
>>>>>>> bench at
>>>>>>> the same time. My standing joke is that I don't get the parts mixed up...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but here is a good one:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used a computer's "cmos beep" speaker to replace on in a transistor radio!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way I got into computers was as Radio Design (RF)
>>>>>> engineer.  Most of the designs were on thin film, so
>>>>>> I had to computer model everything: you can't tweak
>>>>>> a microcircuit.  I was really good at it.  But to do
>>>>>> so, I had to maintain the computers.  Then the Cold
>>>>>> War ended and so did my job.  So I because a computer
>>>>>> consultant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you can do some awesome stuff with tubes and
>>>>>> radios, especially transmitters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you ever get a chance to listen to a tube stereo,
>>>>>> it will blow you away.  It is like being in the
>>>>>> auditorium with the performer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...
>>>>
>>>> I started with stereos and (tube) TV's.  I was real
>>>> little when I first bugged our living room.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. A friend of mine bugged the room his parents used when
>>> discussing his allowance. I was not quite than sneaky.
>>
>> You'd be amazed how much smack your parents say about
>> you behind your back!
>>
>> Whenever my parents got on the phone, I could
>> tell that the adult at the other end was saying
>> what a nice young man I was.  The tip off was
>> my mother saying "Who?" over and over.  She had
>> a tiny point.
>>
>> Never figured out how to bug the phone.   I had
>> one of those suction cup mikes for the side of
>> the phone to record the conversation.  Didn't
>> work for s---.
>>
>
>
> I still recall the time I stayed overnight at my grandmother's house and
> there was an extension phone in my room. When I carefully and quietly
> picked it up to listen in, my grandmother periodically told me to hang
> it up. I was being extra quiet and never knew how she knew until years
> later when I thought about it:   I had the TV on !
>
>
> Some spy I'd be.

Chuckle!

I'd pick up the handset whilst holding down the
hook and remove the microphone. Did not take
me too long to discover that the speaker also
acted as a mic. Busted!

In article <sghb1e$ii4$1@dont-email.me>, <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I'd pick up the handset whilst holding down the
> hook and remove the microphone. Did not take
> me too long to discover that the speaker also
> acted as a mic. Busted!

not unless you loudly yell into it, it doesn't.

you were busted because when another extension is picked up, there is
an audible click with a slight drop in volume to the other parties.

On 30/08/2021 01.43, T wrote:
> On 8/29/21 4:03 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 30/08/2021 00.00, T wrote:
>>> On 8/29/21 11:00 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

>>>>>> just try my line, you will see all the information it gives. I can
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> paste here an example, because of line wrap.
>>>
>>> $ lsblk --output
>>> lsblk: option '--output' requires an argument
>>> Try 'lsblk --help' for more information.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm....
>>
>> You forgot the rest of the line:
>>
>> lsblk --output \
>> NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL,ALIGNMENT
>>
>
>
> I thought you were showing me the results.

Line wrap... sorry. I lost an add on in Thunderbird to disable line wrap
after mozilla changed the api or something. Now the new version of the
plugin needs very invasive permissions to do just a simple thing.

>
> $ lsblk --output
> NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL,ALIGNMENT
>
> NAME KNAME  RA RM RO   SIZE TYPE  FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL MOUNTPOINT UUID
>                                 PARTUUID WWN                  MODEL
> ALIGNMENT
> sda  sda   128  0  0   1.8T disk
> 0x5000039ffacd0397   TOSHI         0
> └─sda1
>      sda1  128  0  0   1.8T part  crypto
> d349a38e-0e02-4c82-9c5e-e324d7e6b9d8
> ad0babf7-062a-4712-b94d-3296b5170165 0x5000039ffacd0397                 0
> sr0  sr0   128  1  0  1024M rom
>                     ATAPI         0
> zram0
>      zram0 128  0  0     8G disk                         [SWAP]
>                                    0
> nvme0n1
> │    nvme0n1
> │          128  0  0 931.5G disk
> eui.0025385a71b0705a Samsu         0
> ├─nvme0n1p1
> │    nvme0n1p1
> │          128  0  0   200M part  vfat         EFI System Partition
> │                                                        /boot/efi
> 3E81-B783 6e58cd53-8fbd-4b97-bce2-fa7c43e105f3
> eui.0025385a71b0705a               0

....
>
>
> Beautiful, but I won't remember it.
>
> :'(

But of course, I don't remember it either. Who do you think I am, a
wizard? :-D

I have a text file with recipes to copy-paste.

Or, if I have used it before in that computer, I type ctrl-r at the bash
prompt, then "lsblk" and I get to see and use the same concoction as
used a week before.

Possibly, you can use it also in Windows, that linux in windows thing.
I'd be curious to know, if somebody can try ;-)

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 18:46:38 -0500, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...

What about the crystal set era?

Steve

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

>
> Possibly, you can use it also in Windows, that linux in windows thing.
> I'd be curious to know, if somebody can try ;-)

The /dev is not exposed in the Windows 10 Bash Shell.

Instead, you have access to mounted file systems. Spelling
is case-sensitive, and since Windows uses Downloads, then
a capital D is required here.

/mnt/c/users/carlos/Downloads

That's the layer you have access. If you want F: , it is

/mnt/f

For example

cd /mnt/f
ls

You cannot do anything to /dev in Win10 bash shell.
This will fail.

sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=myMBR bs=512 count=1

You could copy a file with "dd" if you want. As
this example is not at the /dev level.

cd /mnt/c/Temp

dd if=recipe.txt of=flavors_of_spain.txt

Paul

On 30/08/2021 15.58, Paul wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>>
>> Possibly, you can use it also in Windows, that linux in windows thing.
>> I'd be curious to know, if somebody can try ;-)
>
> The /dev is not exposed in the Windows 10 Bash Shell.

Oh. That's a pity. My command will fail, then.

> Instead, you have access to mounted file systems. Spelling
> is case-sensitive, and since Windows uses Downloads, then
> a capital D is required here.
>
>    /mnt/c/users/carlos/Downloads
>
> That's the layer you have access. If you want F: , it is
>
>    /mnt/f
>
> For example
>
>    cd /mnt/f
>    ls
>
> You cannot do anything to /dev in Win10 bash shell.
> This will fail.
>
>    sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=myMBR bs=512 count=1
>
> You could copy a file with "dd" if you want. As
> this example is not at the /dev level.
>
>    cd /mnt/c/Temp
>
>    dd if=recipe.txt of=flavors_of_spain.txt

Thanks.

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 8/30/21 3:18 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> But of course, I don't remember it either. Who do you think I am, a
> wizard?:-D

YES !!!!

On 8/30/21 5:48 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 18:46:38 -0500, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Yep. I started out in the tube era. Fixed my first radio at age 11 ...
>
> What about the crystal set era?
>
> Steve
>

Had one of those as a kid. Did not work
so well. Gallium and a cat's whisker. I
think they were punking me about the cat.

I worked with tube flip flops in the Air Force.

You ever work with single side band band?