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* No more updates for 14.2?John Smith
+* Re: No more updates for 14.2?Lew Pitcher
|`* Re: No more updates for 14.2?John Smith
| +- Re: No more updates for 14.2?Henrik Carlqvist
| `* Re: No more updates for 14.2?Chris Elvidge
|  `* Re: No more updates for 14.2?Jerry Peters
|   `- Re: No more updates for 14.2?Rinaldi
`- Re: No more updates for 14.2?Michael Black

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From: 12345@whatismyemailaddress.xyz (John Smith)
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Subject: No more updates for 14.2?
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 by: John Smith - Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:43 UTC

There have been no updates to 14.2 ever since mention was made in
current that current is 15.0 alpha. Slackbuilds stopped providing updates
for their packages at about the same time.

Has 14.2 become abandonware, before its successor is released?

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From: lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca (Lew Pitcher)
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Subject: Re: No more updates for 14.2?
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 by: Lew Pitcher - Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:52 UTC

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:43:13 +0000, John Smith wrote:

> There have been no updates to 14.2 ever since mention was made in
> current that current is 15.0 alpha. Slackbuilds stopped providing updates
> for their packages at about the same time.
>
> Has 14.2 become abandonware, before its successor is released?

The last update notices that I received were issued on June 7, 2021 for
polkit-0.113-i586-3_slack14.2 and httpd-2.4.48-i586-1_slack14.2

The mirror sites that I use had both of these updates available by June 9,
along with an unannounced libX11-1.7.2 update.

Nothing since then, though, and I check the mirrors daily.
--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"

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From: 12345@whatismyemailaddress.xyz (John Smith)
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Subject: Re: No more updates for 14.2?
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 by: John Smith - Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:09 UTC

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:52:27 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:43:13 +0000, John Smith wrote:
>
>> There have been no updates to 14.2 ever since mention was made in
>> current that current is 15.0 alpha. Slackbuilds stopped providing
>> updates for their packages at about the same time.
>>
>> Has 14.2 become abandonware, before its successor is released?
>
> The last update notices that I received were issued on June 7, 2021 for
> polkit-0.113-i586-3_slack14.2 and httpd-2.4.48-i586-1_slack14.2
>
> The mirror sites that I use had both of these updates available by June
> 9,
> along with an unannounced libX11-1.7.2 update.
>
> Nothing since then, though, and I check the mirrors daily.

Thanks. Yes, that's my experience as well. The thing is, some web
sites already refusing to work with the version of Firefox in 14.2. I can
use chromium, but I am just concerned that other packages in 14.2 are
quickly becoming obsolete as we speak. And with no ETA for 15.0...

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From: Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com (Henrik Carlqvist)
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 by: Henrik Carlqvist - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 05:54 UTC

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:09:13 +0000, John Smith wrote:
> Thanks. Yes, that's my experience as well. The thing is, some web
> sites already refusing to work with the version of Firefox in 14.2. I
> can use chromium, but I am just concerned that other packages in 14.2
> are quickly becoming obsolete as we speak. And with no ETA for 15.0...

I don't think that 14.2 has been abandoned even though the firefox
version is now obsolete. Slackware 14.0 is still being supported (last
update the same httpd package from 7/6 2021) but its Firefox version has
not been updated since version 17.0.11esr year 2013.

The reason that Firefox stops getting updated on a still supported
version of Slackware is probably that newer versions of Firefox no longer
compiles on that version of Slackware.

For Slackware 14.2 Firefox has not been updated since version 68.12.0esr
in August 2020. This probably means that we will get no more updates of
Firefox for 14.2 even though 14.2 will continue to be supported with
other security patches.

Months before a Slackware version is abandoned there will be a notice of
End Of Life in the ChangeLog.txt. This is what that notice looked like
for Slackware 13.37 which was the last version of Slackware to get
abandoned:

+--------------------------+
Fri Apr 6 20:47:43 UTC 2018
####################################################################
# NOTICE OF INPENDING EOL (END OF LIFE) FOR OLD SLACKWARE VERSIONS #
# #
# Effective July 5, 2018, security patches will no longer be #
# provided for the following versions of Slackware (which will all #
# be more than 7 years old at that time): #
# Slackware 13.0, Slackware 13.1, Slackware 13.37. #
# If you are still running these versions you should consider #
# migrating to a newer version (preferably as recent as possible). #
# Alternately, you may make arrangements to handle your own #
# security patches. #
####################################################################

And the last security patch for Slackware 13.37 was from June 19 2018:

+--------------------------+
Tue Jun 19 22:35:25 UTC 2018
patches/packages/gnupg-1.4.23-i486-1_slack13.37.txz: Upgraded.
Sanitize the diagnostic output of the original file name in verbose
mode.
By using a made up file name in the message it was possible to fake
status
messages. Using this technique it was for example possible to fake the
verification status of a signed mail.
For more information, see:
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2018-12020
(* Security fix *)
+--------------------------+

regards Henrik

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From: chris@mshome.net (Chris Elvidge)
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 by: Chris Elvidge - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 14:56 UTC

On 13/07/2021 08:09 pm, John Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:52:27 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:43:13 +0000, John Smith wrote:
>>
>>> There have been no updates to 14.2 ever since mention was made in
>>> current that current is 15.0 alpha. Slackbuilds stopped providing
>>> updates for their packages at about the same time.
>>>
>>> Has 14.2 become abandonware, before its successor is released?
>>
>> The last update notices that I received were issued on June 7, 2021 for
>> polkit-0.113-i586-3_slack14.2 and httpd-2.4.48-i586-1_slack14.2
>>
>> The mirror sites that I use had both of these updates available by June
>> 9,
>> along with an unannounced libX11-1.7.2 update.
>>
>> Nothing since then, though, and I check the mirrors daily.
>
> Thanks. Yes, that's my experience as well. The thing is, some web
> sites already refusing to work with the version of Firefox in 14.2. I can
> use chromium, but I am just concerned that other packages in 14.2 are
> quickly becoming obsolete as we speak. And with no ETA for 15.0...
>

Is it worth testing Palemoon?
http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/

--
Chris Elvidge
England

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Subject: Re: No more updates for 14.2?
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 by: Michael Black - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 20:27 UTC

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:43:17 PM UTC-4, John Smith wrote:
> There have been no updates to 14.2 ever since mention was made in
> current that current is 15.0 alpha. Slackbuilds stopped providing updates
> for their packages at about the same time.
>
> Has 14.2 become abandonware, before its successor is released?

"Stable" is not a constant upgrade, security fixes, and maybe a few other things, show up there. The fact that it's been a month since yhe last entry means nothing in itself.

Of course, when current becomes a release, stable becomes the new release, 15.0, and security fixes to it appear yhere. Current then starts again, laying the foundation for the next release.

But, after five years, it does make sense to move to 15.0 when it's released.

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 by: Jerry Peters - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:43 UTC

Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
> On 13/07/2021 08:09 pm, John Smith wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:52:27 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:43:13 +0000, John Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> There have been no updates to 14.2 ever since mention was made in
>>>> current that current is 15.0 alpha. Slackbuilds stopped providing
>>>> updates for their packages at about the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Has 14.2 become abandonware, before its successor is released?
>>>
>>> The last update notices that I received were issued on June 7, 2021 for
>>> polkit-0.113-i586-3_slack14.2 and httpd-2.4.48-i586-1_slack14.2
>>>
>>> The mirror sites that I use had both of these updates available by June
>>> 9,
>>> along with an unannounced libX11-1.7.2 update.
>>>
>>> Nothing since then, though, and I check the mirrors daily.
>>
>> Thanks. Yes, that's my experience as well. The thing is, some web
>> sites already refusing to work with the version of Firefox in 14.2. I can
>> use chromium, but I am just concerned that other packages in 14.2 are
>> quickly becoming obsolete as we speak. And with no ETA for 15.0...
>>
>
> Is it worth testing Palemoon?
> http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/

Yes, I've been using it ever since FF started changing the GUI to
something I now find is almost unusable. PM fixes problems, not
creates new ones by constant GUI changes.

Jerry

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 by: Rinaldi - Mon, 19 Jul 2021 01:15 UTC

On 7/18/21 2:43 PM, Jerry Peters wrote:
>> Is it worth testing Palemoon?
>> http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/
> Yes, I've been using it ever since FF started changing the GUI to
> something I now find is almost unusable. PM fixes problems, not
> creates new ones by constant GUI changes.

I have a problem with Pale Moon spilling outside its geometric
boundaries. A 1280x1040 window (e.g.) will expand a toolbar the entire
width if the window when a popup is activated (hover over (File, e.g.)

Plasma on Current.

Minor irritant not reported.

Rinaldi

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