On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 06:02:32 +0100, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 15:41:43 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On 4/24/2024 1:07 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 11:59:30 +0100, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 00:41:04 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:54:42 +0200, Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> crasso@nycap.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm trying to convince her to buy Forte Agent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is no longer possible since they simply do not react when you "buy"
>>>>>> this from their website. Actually I just went there and got "502 Bad
>>>>>> Gateway" for www.forteinc.com. This company is dead.
>>>>
>>>> This linkie redirects to somewhere else in my FF 115/Win7.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Forte website seems to be available once again. Old versions of Forte Agent
>>>>> can be downloaded from https://www.forteinc.com/agent/download-all.php
>>>>
>>>> ###########################################################
>>>>
>>>> Secure Connection Failed
>>>>
>>>> An error occurred during a connection to www.forteinc.com. Peer
>>>> received a valid certificate, but access was denied.
>>>>
>>>> Error code: SSL_ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED_ALERT
>>>>
>>>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>>>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>>>> Please contact the web site owners to inform them of this problem.
>>>>
>>>> ###########################################################
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The last free version was Agent 3.3,
>>>>> https://download.forteinc.com/pub/agent/english/agentenu330-846.exe
>>>>
>>>> Again: "SSL_ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED_ALERT".
>>>>
>>>> The redirect on the first linkie is the same in Opera but the two
>>>> "SSL" messages are a lot shorter.
>>>
>>> No problems for me. The site is working properly, including a handful of
>>> downloads that I tried.
>>>
>>
>>Now, is that someone who has left the SSL options enabled
>>on their browser, when we're using TLS today ? You're only
>>supposed to have a few TLS enabled, for best security.
>>
>>I find it suspicious when an error message "mentions" SSL in that way.
>>It smells of "browser not configured correctly for modern Internet".
>>At one time, we had to manually turn off the insecure SSL flavors
>>via browser settings.
>>
>>https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html
>>
>> Protocols [of my client browser, a few years back now]
>> TLS 1.3 No <=== web sites using *only* this, are a problem
>> TLS 1.2 Yes
>> TLS 1.1 Yes
>> TLS 1.0 Yes
>> SSL 3 No
>> SSL 2 No
>>
>>It's not a good idea to leave the two SSL ones in the "ON" state.
>>And as time passes, the bottom two TLS could be turned off too.
>
> Thank you.
>
> My FF has TLS's 1.3 and 1.2 ON and everything else OFF.
>
> My Opera has the same settings. SSLLabs tells me that 1.3 is
>"recommended" to be ON.
>
> I, apparently, am not vulnerable to all of those nasties.
>
> I did try having a scout around Preferences, Settings and
>"about:config" in Opera and FF but I can't find the TLS/SSL settings.
>They don't seem to like me fiddling about.
>
> I did muck about with them in Internet Exploiter 11 some years ago
>but I've sort of removed that from my Win-7 box.
>
> Naturally, I don't have Edge. :)
>
> I did ping Forteinc.com, it still redirects to another company's
>page.

For me, www.forteinc.com resolves to 54.221.164.201 or 44.207.132.145

Do you see something else? Like what? What makes you say that ping is
redirecting to another company? (Asking because it's actually not possible, but
you may be seeing something interesting.)

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 22:58:30 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com>
wrote:

>John wrote on 4/24/24 10:02 PM:

<<snipped>>

>> My FF has TLS's 1.3 and 1.2 ON and everything else OFF.
>>
>> My Opera has the same settings. SSLLabs tells me that 1.3 is
>> "recommended" to be ON.
>>
>> I, apparently, am not vulnerable to all of those nasties.
>>
>> I did try having a scout around Preferences, Settings and
>> "about:config" in Opera and FF but I can't find the TLS/SSL settings.
>> They don't seem to like me fiddling about.
>>
>> I did muck about with them in Internet Exploiter 11 some years ago
>> but I've sort of removed that from my Win-7 box.

Oh. Oh, dear. I really am going senile. Please see below.

>>
>> Naturally, I don't have Edge. :)
>>
>> I did ping Forteinc.com, it still redirects to another company's
>> page.
>>
>> Sorry.
>>
>> And thank you.
>>
>> J.
>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>
>Few realize that Windows Control Panel/Internet Options/Advance settings
>for SSL, TLS etc. apply to Edge, Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari, etc.

Yes, yes, yes!

That is where I fiddled with the settings in IE11 many years back. I
had just not made the connection this time.

Sorry.

IE brings up that panel when you change things. It really is
integrated - *was* integrated - deeply into the system. I'm sad that I
didn't remember this.

>
>Note: TLS 1.0 and 1.1 might be disabled by default in the browser code,
>but the option remains to turn the setting back on as noted above.

Yes, well, I've set everything as the good Paul recommends. Thank you
for all your help, everyone.

I wish I could blame the mental lapse on something else but it was
simply too many days, weeks and years of not keeping my mental
pictures refreshed.

I feel like an idiot. :)

J.

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 02:24:30 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

<<snipped>>

>
>For me, www.forteinc.com resolves to 54.221.164.201 or 44.207.132.145

I can reach those two when I use the numbers instead of DNS-ing the
name but they return blank pages.

It's me, not Forteinc.com who is the problem. Sorry.

>
>Do you see something else? Like what? What makes you say that ping is
>redirecting to another company? (Asking because it's actually not possible, but
>you may be seeing something interesting.)

It's possible. Just unlikely and annoying. And not the least bit
interesting.

It was an age-restricted thing in one of the "security" things
running in the background. Nothing to do with Forté nor their website.
That's what I get for trying to be helpful.

Sorry to waste everyone's time, efforts and brain-powers.

I'm turning into my sister. :(

J